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Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by padobson »

mrfusion wrote: post #80
padobson wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the link. I started on Spinach because my doctor suggested "leafy green vegetables". I tried kale first, but I prefer the taste of spinach. I most often eat it first thing in the morning as a shake: 90g spinach + 1 cup almond milk + half a frozen banana. According to the article, I may want to add some strawberries or oranges for more vitamin C.

Fresh spinach?

Depends. I buy groceries every two weeks and get two bags of fresh spinach. I freeze one and leave the other in the vegetable crisper. So the first week it's all fresh, the second week it's frozen.

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Post by padobson »

xiaoma wrote: post #86
padobson wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the link. I started on Spinach because my doctor suggested "leafy green vegetables". I tried kale first, but I prefer the taste of spinach. I most often eat it first thing in the morning as a shake: 90g spinach + 1 cup almond milk + half a frozen banana. According to the article, I may want to add some strawberries or oranges for more vitamin C.

You tried kale before spinach? WTF? What's the story behind that?

Since the doctor's recommendation. Kale seems to have slightly more nutrients, but, IMO, at to great a cost too taste.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by bglazer »

samstave wrote: post #89
padobson wrote: post #47

I go to therapy to manage my depression. I don't have a severe case, but it's bad enough that it affects my productivity at times. Once a year or so I'll have a bout where I am almost completely unable to function. The tools I use to manage depression are (wait for it) diet, exercise and prayer (or meditation, if you want to keep it secular). Exercise is particularly useful. Depression affects the mind, so it's diffi…

I suffer from extreme depression as well. I used to meditate for at least an hour a day, I also used to run five or more miles a day... I haven't been doing either recently, and my depression is really bad right now. I was biking a lot, until my bike was stolen recently. That added to my depression... But I walk an average of four miles a day, and take average of 10,000 steps a day and climb an average of ten flights…

I'm not a mental health professional but I suffer from depression. It's not an extreme case but it's still quite painful. I urge you to continue striving to throw off that grey veil that shrouds life. I can assure you that the first glimpse of brightness and clear vision will come, even after weeks of crushing hopelessness.

Even when my brain's biochemical state is fucked and broken and makes me want to hide and disappear, I can remember that it will change and I will feel better and that I do have some degree of control over it. You seem very self-aware, which is an enormous challenge when one is depressed. That means that you have one of the tools to escape depression. Remember that.

It may sound trite, but fuck it. Just keep on going. You will feel better.

Edit: If you can, try to find a professional counselor or psychiatrist. If nothing else, they're exceptionally good listeners.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by padobson »

samstave wrote: post #89
padobson wrote: post #47

I go to therapy to manage my depression. I don't have a severe case, but it's bad enough that it affects my productivity at times. Once a year or so I'll have a bout where I am almost completely unable to function. The tools I use to manage depression are (wait for it) diet, exercise and prayer (or meditation, if you want to keep it secular). Exercise is particularly useful. Depression affects the mind, so it's diffi…

I suffer from extreme depression as well. I used to meditate for at least an hour a day, I also used to run five or more miles a day... I haven't been doing either recently, and my depression is really bad right now. I was biking a lot, until my bike was stolen recently. That added to my depression... But I walk an average of four miles a day, and take average of 10,000 steps a day and climb an average of ten flights…

I've found that a high intensity workout is more effective than a low one - even comparing a jog to a run.

A few weeks ago, I could feel the depression setting in, and several runs that started with 8 minute miles didn't seem to stop it. So I resolved to go faster (read: got pissed and sprinted), ran a 6:21 mile (my fastest since I started measuring last year) and it was like spring cleaning for my brain.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by kaitai »

Full article at https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/441029

Leg strength was tested by "Leg Extensor Power Rig," a custom-built instrument in one of these medical school labs (Nottingham Med School). It's important to remember that for all of these strength tests on average citizens you want an exercise that doesn't require coaching or good form, so no squats, sadly....

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by brahmwg »

padobson wrote: post #94
samstave wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suffer from extreme depression as well. I used to meditate for at least an hour a day, I also used to run five or more miles a day... I haven't been doing either recently, and my depression is really bad right now. I was biking a lot, until my bike was stolen recently. That added to my depression... But I walk an average of four miles a day, and take average of 10,000 steps a day and climb an average of ten flights…

I've found that a high intensity workout is more effective than a low one - even comparing a jog to a run. A few weeks ago, I could feel the depression setting in, and several runs that started with 8 minute miles didn't seem to stop it. So I resolved to go faster (read: got pissed and sprinted), ran a 6:21 mile (my fastest since I started measuring last year) and it was like spring cleaning for my brain.

As a fellow sufferer of depression, I can relate and agree that the more intense the effort the greater the release of hormones/feelings which appear to suppress the depressive symptoms. That being said however, I have found long walks of a low intensity have been especially useful. Particularly on trails or hiking, the constant mindfulness of each step over rocks and roots helps put me in a meditative trance.

Solvitur Ambulando, it is solved by walking

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by samstave »

brahmwg wrote: post #96
padobson wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found that a high intensity workout is more effective than a low one - even comparing a jog to a run. A few weeks ago, I could feel the depression setting in, and several runs that started with 8 minute miles didn't seem to stop it. So I resolved to go faster (read: got pissed and sprinted), ran a 6:21 mile (my fastest since I started measuring last year) and it was like spring cleaning for my brain.

As a fellow sufferer of depression, I can relate and agree that the more intense the effort the greater the release of hormones/feelings which appear to suppress the depressive symptoms. That being said however, I have found long walks of a low intensity have been especially useful. Particularly on trails or hiking, the constant mindfulness of each step over rocks and roots helps put me in a meditative trance. Solvit…

>Solvitur Ambulando, it is solved by walking

This is really interesting, in my martial art, which I did extremely actively in my youth - but far less now -- one of the sayings is "Keep walking" and "Keep moving"

The "Keep walking" is even used in some of the learning of actual techniques -- you move into a certain position with your Uke, and then... keep walking... and it executes the throw.

Keep walking is also used when talking about meditation in their teachings as well... movement meditation.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by OldSchoolJohnny »

DevX101 wrote: post #33

Strong legs are also associated with people who run a lot, which has been already shown to be associated with healthy brains. It's possible this study is a proxy for the common health advice of 'just do more cardio'

No knowledgeable sources are advising to "just do more cardio" anymore. Science has long marched on past that advice.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by samstave »

bglazer wrote: post #93
samstave wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suffer from extreme depression as well. I used to meditate for at least an hour a day, I also used to run five or more miles a day... I haven't been doing either recently, and my depression is really bad right now. I was biking a lot, until my bike was stolen recently. That added to my depression... But I walk an average of four miles a day, and take average of 10,000 steps a day and climb an average of ten flights…

I'm not a mental health professional but I suffer from depression. It's not an extreme case but it's still quite painful. I urge you to continue striving to throw off that grey veil that shrouds life. I can assure you that the first glimpse of brightness and clear vision will come, even after weeks of crushing hopelessness. Even when my brain's biochemical state is fucked and broken and makes me want to hide and disa…

Thank you.

I was going to counseling - until I couldn't afford her any longer.

I have children - so they keep me aware, and here.

Re: Strong Legs Associated with Healthy Brains in Twin Study

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Post by xiaoma »

padobson wrote: post #92
xiaoma wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You tried kale before spinach? WTF? What's the story behind that?

Since the doctor's recommendation. Kale seems to have slightly more nutrients, but, IMO, at to great a cost too taste.

Ah that makes sense. Still, I stand by my shock. Going to kale before spinach is just nuts (barring pressure from a doctor who doesn't care about your culinary experiences).
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