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Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by Grim_Reaper »

pvaldes wrote: post #48

One of the problems with Perl6 is an excesive proliferation of cute pets and pet names to learn before to start. A second one is that those names are unrelated and random, without a clear relationship between them or with what they can really do. Fit your tutorial to the desired age of your audience. If something is a virtual machine just start your tutorial calling it 'our virtual machine'. Explain briefly what is a…

I agree on you.

I read Perl tutorial, its like reading an essay. Not telling you the straight to the point answer. Perl tutorial really bad.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by Grim_Reaper »

Ulti wrote: post #12

OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…

I hate Perl because excessive used of symbol/operators make your Perl code unreadable and unmaintainable. Larry Wall want to add more symbols in Perl 6. That's why we hate Perl because of ugly syntax. Example: $@$%~$_&&||!???.===>~~::&*^_^

Fun Fact: Larry Wall created periodic table of operator for Perl 6.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by virtualsue »

autoreleasepool wrote: post #42
Zikes wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it. How does disliking a butterfly logo equate to hating women?

It doesn't. The logo is more childish than it is feminine anyways.

That's pretty much the intention. I have heard Larry Wall say that Camelia was created to appeal to 7 year old girls. I didn't hear him go into any complicated discussions regarding masculinity/femininity or any of that jazz.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by virtualsue »

Grim_Reaper wrote: post #88

Holy Shit! Childish design of Perl 6 site. I think the Perl 6 dev core is not serious. Perl 6 is an ugly language! Funny thing about Perl 6 syntax and feature are reinvented the wheel all over again like Perl 6 'gather' and 'take' syntax, Only Perl 6 have that syntax. A lot of Reinventing the wheel in syntax and feature make Perl 6 a very bad language.

Poor Grim_Reaper. Nothing to do all day but post complaints in a Perl 6 thread. I hope you can find some sort of purpose in life, friend.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by justinator »

robotnoises wrote: post #24

Larry Wall's discussion on the logo, Camelia ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/perl6/mu/master/misc/camel... ): Discussion Highlights ===================== From: Larry Wall Date: March 24, 2009 10:25 Subject: Re: Logo considerations [...] I think there's a tendency to go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something with gut appeal on the order of Tux. In particular I want a logo for Perl 6 that is:…

I remember volunteering to create some logo ideas for Perl 6 - maybe a decade ago? I did research and presented ideas. I was at a step even before thumbnail sketches - just wanted to get some feedback from the Perl community - am I on the right track? Any other ideas to look at? [0]

Larry kinda went, "NO IT"S THIS." and there was Camelia.

Honestly, Camelia is just slightly worse than the redesign of The Life Aquatic Flag/Logo. Which itself was funny, as this was from a comedy [1].

[0] http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/2009/01/msg9...

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=The+Life+Aquatic+with+Steve+...

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by justinator »

justinator wrote: post #95
robotnoises wrote: post #24

Larry Wall's discussion on the logo, Camelia ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/perl6/mu/master/misc/camel... ): Discussion Highlights ===================== From: Larry Wall Date: March 24, 2009 10:25 Subject: Re: Logo considerations [...] I think there's a tendency to go way too abstract in most of these proposals. I want something with gut appeal on the order of Tux. In particular I want a logo for Perl 6 that is:…

I remember volunteering to create some logo ideas for Perl 6 - maybe a decade ago? I did research and presented ideas. I was at a step even before thumbnail sketches - just wanted to get some feedback from the Perl community - am I on the right track? Any other ideas to look at? [0] Larry kinda went, "NO IT"S THIS." and there was Camelia. Honestly, Camelia is just slightly worse than the redesign of The Life Aquatic…

Ah, I remember now - Larry just posted a PDF of Camelia.[0]

I was under the impression that Larry was banned from being in involved in the implementation of Perl 6. ;)

I kinda saw that logo and gave up the idea of helping. It was just so horrible as to defy logic.

Still love Perl and I think a butterfly is a great idea - and even this is a good as a start, but it's not a strong enough logo for people to have careers depend upon. Like me. It doesn't even tick all the checkboxes that Larry had. If you made this logo in an intro design class in art school, you'd be ridiculed.

[0] http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.users/2009/03/msg9...

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by username223 »

yokohummer7 wrote: post #81
motoboi wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And yet, everybody loves Go.

I believe many others feel differently, but personally, I find the Go mascot a bit scary . Dunno the reason, but it's something that I can't easily get used when reading the articles on Go. FWIW, Russ Cox's GitHub icon[1] is similarly scary to me. [1] https://github.com/rsc

I've never been a fan of "creepy pervert gerbil" either. I wasn't familiar with Russ's even creepier rabbit-thing, but now the gerbil makes more sense.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by Ulti »

raiph wrote: post #86
Ulti wrote: post #12

OOC how many people would be interested in a Perl 6 Corporate Look n' Feel type site? Where everything is just designed to be boring and on message for production use in a business setting. Front page has Docker deployment and continuous integration setup steps etc. (that all exists and works FYI) Everything would be muted colours and mostly cloning the style of https://www.haskell.org/ or https://nodejs.org/en/ or e…

Larry has already blessed such sites if someone steps up and creates it: > anyway, that's just the .org site; other sites can have dreary corporate logos if they like :) http://irclog.perlgeek.de/perl6/2011-09-15#i_4432065 I'm pretty sure diakopter owns perl6.com; maybe approach him?

Cool I should give it a go then. perl6.io might be the best plan if we're trying to get HN to take notice and try something out >:3

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by nocman »

JamesMcMinn wrote: post #69
yitchelle wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they really go through the exercise of trade marking the butterfly logo? They must be serious about this style of branding this version of Perl.

Probably not, you can legally stick a TM symbol on just about anything without submitting any paperwork. There's a joke that TM stands for Totally Meaningless because it offers zero protection.

Yeah, if memory serves you have to have a registered trademark (the kind that gives you the circled "R") to have any real protection.

I think the plain TM might help you if it is published on paper (like in some well-known dated publication) and you are later fighting someone else for the registered trademark, but it might be only slightly better than no help whatsoever.

Re: New Perl 6 Homepage

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Post by nocman »

debacle wrote: post #25

The examples on the homepage kind of underscore how little like Perl Perl 6 actually is.

Really? I don't see it that way at all.

I mean, it's not that much different than all the new changes to C++ in the last 10 years (compared to the C++ from 10 years ago).

Yeah, there are a bunch of new things, but it still looks Perlish to me.

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