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Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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When the crying person gets this all resolved, perhaps the crying person will want to consider alternatives to Facebook, such as diaspora*.

Despite all the best will in the world on the behalf of the developers and users of Diaspora and other platforms designed to replace Facebook, there is no alternative to Facebook until everyone moves there.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Facebook's mistreatment of LGBT folks is a real, documented thing that has existed for many years, and one of their pain points for that group is forcing a person to provide government ID and a "real name", which can then be used to ban the account for "misrepresenting" their sexual orientation as well as expose them to harassment from hate groups. The author is an outspoken advocate for LGBT rights, so I can see whe…

See also Facebook's weird standards around photos of women breast feeding their babies (strictly banned for years) and terrorists beheading captured people (fine by Facebook).

That's something that has always struck me as upside-down. A sane society sees sex (and to be clear, I don't consider breast feeding at all sexual, it's Facebook making that connection) as healthy and positive, and violence as unhealthy and negative. Yet here is Facebook having zero issues with public beheadings of all things, while blocking something that isn't even sexual in nature on the grounds of public decency? It's maddening.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Seems completely absurd to me. You are supposed to know what your friends look like (aren't they called friends?)

There's friends , and there's "Facebook friends". In reality people have thousands of different relations between people, and nuances to those relationships. Facebook has two-you're either "Friends", or "not Friends". Needless to say, this is a tremendously leaky abstraction. Thus, don't assume that because two people are Facebook friends, that their relationship in any way resemble friendship.

you're playing on words. If you add someone on facebook, it's because you know them.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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There's friends , and there's "Facebook friends". In reality people have thousands of different relations between people, and nuances to those relationships. Facebook has two-you're either "Friends", or "not Friends". Needless to say, this is a tremendously leaky abstraction. Thus, don't assume that because two people are Facebook friends, that their relationship in any way resemble friendship.

you're playing on words. If you add someone on facebook, it's because you know them.

> you're playing on words

The words we use to describe our relationships are important, and the fact that Facebook flattens them all down to two is a significant issue. Especially when we have people who don't understand that, and seem confused why people are "Facebook friends", but not actually friends.

> it's because you know them

Sure, but that doesn't mean I know what they look like.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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friends and i have successfully evaded facebook's idiotic (read: trans-exclusionary) "real" name policy by photoshopping the text of legal documents on a few occasions. a laborious option! but worth considering.

In my most recent review of random ID-generating tools (all I wanted were plausible and random names and details), I found that many will now "generate" documents -- state drivers licenses, passports, etc. -- which could presumably be submitted.

Mind: that likely puts you solidly into fraud category.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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When the crying person gets this all resolved, perhaps the crying person will want to consider alternatives to Facebook, such as diaspora*.

"The alternative" is almost certain not to be an alternative Web-based service, but a set of protocols allowing for interactions between independent and independently hosted systems.

Diaspora was a valient effort, but sadly, appears quite doomed (I was an early fan and user).

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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When the crying person gets this all resolved, perhaps the crying person will want to consider alternatives to Facebook, such as diaspora*.

"The alternative" is almost certain not to be an alternative Web-based service, but a set of protocols allowing for interactions between independent and independently hosted systems. Diaspora was a valient effort, but sadly, appears quite doomed (I was an early fan and user).

From everything I've seen/read during the security research phase for my project, trusting in the computational/security integrity of endless P2P nodes is not a road I want to go down.

There really is nothing _a priori_ wrong with the centralized system, PROVIDED said system/operator makes strong Privacy / Data Sovereignity guarantees from the word go.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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"The alternative" is almost certain not to be an alternative Web-based service, but a set of protocols allowing for interactions between independent and independently hosted systems. Diaspora was a valient effort, but sadly, appears quite doomed (I was an early fan and user).

From everything I've seen/read during the security research phase for my project, trusting in the computational/security integrity of endless P2P nodes is not a road I want to go down. There really is nothing _a priori_ wrong with the centralized system, PROVIDED said system/operator makes strong Privacy / Data Sovereignity guarantees from the word go.

Fair point. It's not necesarily the case that you'd see extensively P2P nodes. But again, a distributed protocol based system would allow for local supernodes, competently administered, to exist.

There's also the issue that client nodes, under any model, also require security updates and practices. The universal P2P model really isn't far from that, and certain auto-updating models seem arguably preferable to present offerings.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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> facebook’s account security is apparently based on its users knowing what every one of of its friends looks like (do you?) This isn't central to the post or anything, but uh, is this really that uncommon...?

People accept friends requests on Facebook and social media sites from people they don't know all the time. Some seem to treat it like a game - how many friends they can collect. Others because of peer pressure or not wanting to miss out on work related opportunities and a whole host of other reasons. Social media relationships are not equivalent as your offline friends, relatives and acquaintances.

Thanks for being mature enough to actually answer my question, as opposed to those who just downvoted.

I can honestly say I wasn't aware of that mode of usage. It seems alittle counterproductive, though I suppose you can always depend on Facebooks feed ranking to not show you posts from all the randos.

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