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Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by gadders »

gjm11 wrote: post #64
gadders wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you answered your own question there.

It is only in the United States that "modern Scandinavian-style social democracy" is apparently indistinguishable from socialism. Socialism means large-scale state ownership -- or some other kind of collective ownership by The People -- of "the means of production", in the hope of controlling production to match need. Scandinavian-style social democracy means high taxes, a generous welfare state, and quite a lot of g…

All those things you have described are classed as socialism in the UK as well.

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by chii »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #73
mtbcoder wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of curiosity, how would turning on a web cam determine if a visitor saw an ad or not? I'm missing the logic.

There probably wasn't any logic to it. It was probably the equivilant of when a PM or not technical person asks a developer, "Can't we just put in an IF statement?"

this skit is very apropos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by davedx »

keyme wrote: post #69
x4m wrote: post #55

Just laught a bit on Red Flag. I'm from Russia (: Kind of "been there, done that"... Jolly Roger FTW

And the guy says he's Polish. I guess we're at a point now where todays 25 year-olds have never seen what socialism can deteriorate into.

Well he also mentions Denmark quite a few times.

You'll find that much of Europe is in some form of "socialism" by American standards. And we're doing quite well from it!

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by NumberCruncher »

mozumder wrote: post #2

The correct answer is to never use programmatic ads. Ever. If you own a site, just curate a set of ads on your site that actually enhances your sites appeal. A fashion site should have matching fashion ads. A tech site should have matching tech ads. A local site should have matching local ads. Reach out to advertisers to get these ads. Never use an algorithm. You, as an editor, should be better than the algorithms. A…

In my understading the author doesn´t have any problems with programmatic ads. He has a problem with tech companies using the same tech like programmatic ads, ignoring the laws and the right of users, helping goverments to bypass the laws and the right of users, camping billions abroad to avoid paying taxes but at the same time investing in important projects solving burning issues like the search for immortality or nuking other planets.

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

davedx wrote: post #93
keyme wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the guy says he's Polish. I guess we're at a point now where todays 25 year-olds have never seen what socialism can deteriorate into.

Well he also mentions Denmark quite a few times. You'll find that much of Europe is in some form of "socialism" by American standards. And we're doing quite well from it!

Heck America is Socialist by American standards. Sure, after the Great Depression we got half a dozen Socialist institutions, but I'm not talking about that.

Every cooperative preschool; every farmers' coop; every social club in America operates on Socialist principle. In private we love Socialism; in public we resist. No idea why.

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by VLM »

morgante wrote: post #76
gjm11 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is only in the United States that "modern Scandinavian-style social democracy" is apparently indistinguishable from socialism. Socialism means large-scale state ownership -- or some other kind of collective ownership by The People -- of "the means of production", in the hope of controlling production to match need. Scandinavian-style social democracy means high taxes, a generous welfare state, and quite a lot of g…

Uh, considering that many major European parties explicitly identify as "socialists," I'm not sure it's the US that's confused. It's the US that is confused with the notion that socialism == communism.

Its kind of like how countries with "Democratic" in the name usually aren't democracies. Or "Peoples" in the name usually means the general public are not even remotely in charge. Politically, names don't mean much.

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by pjc50 »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #80
pjc50 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Building codes are there for a reason. Have we had our equivalent of Tacoma Narrows or Triangle Shirtwaist yet? The event that Schneier said would be the "privacy Exxon Valdez"? Possibly the OPM hack qualifies as the latter. Provided we get codes that recognise the difference between personal, small business, and large business, it won't be so bad.

Various governments are already attempting to push "building codes" for privacy in software. http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/features/deleting-a-whatsap... http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/08/421251662/...

You cite two examples against privacy, but not the EU (mostly) pro-privacy data protection rulings. Or accessibility requirements.

In the long term trying to preserve privacy entirely through guerilla action isn't going to work (see China), and it certainly isn't going to work for everyone, so we need to take advantage of the normal democratic channels to achieve the right changes.

Re: What Happens Next Will Amaze You

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Post by crisnoble »

[deleted] wrote: post #77
sandworm101 wrote: post #3

Don't tell us here on hackernews or any other geek forum. Go to a RNC or DNC event. Go convince Trump and/or Hillary that corporations and rich people should pay 1950s-style tax rates. Go sit in front of wealthy old people and suggest socialism for the benefit of the young. Go tell the afraid and well-armed that they need to spend less money being so afraid and well-armed. Make sure to bring your running shoes.

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I think you forgot to read the ending.
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