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“Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by bradleyankrom »

duncan_bayne wrote: post #86
davidgerard wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ten out of ten for authenticity, minus several million for authentically saying something that's a good idea.

Agreed. The author is clearly wrong on a bunch of fronts; I don't think anyone here would argue otherwise. I just don't understand the hatred directed towards someone who's writing without the usual corporate brain-mouth filter ...

The tone obfuscates the message. I don't think it's hatred so much as bewilderment that someone in an executive position at a huge tech company would present an argument about customer behavior this way.

Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by ikeboy »

>We will also not provide credit in any advisories we might issue. You can’t really expect us to say “thank you for breaking the license agreement.”

Well, Apple does (for jailbreak exploits).

>I am not dissing bug bounties, just noting that on a strictly economic basis, why would I throw a lot of money at 3% of the problem

Uh ... You don't think that percentage will increase if you offer bounties?

Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by waihtis »

kabdib wrote: post #80

Wow. Really? This single blog post is strong evidence for why you should never, ever buy an Oracle product, and if you are running anything written by them, why you should plan to migrate away. Now, the culture of consultants in the Oracle sphere of influence is pretty toxic and money-grubbing. I can imagine companies being badgered into paying security weasels big bucks to analyze software with tools that cough up a…

I've recently read "The Difference Between God and Larry Ellison *God Doesn't Think He's Larry Ellison" and while it was published over 10 years ago, this sounds exactly like a lot of things that happened in the book. The Oracle corporate culture seems to basically be reflection of Larry Ellison's megalomania. Their will to rack sales is just insatiable.

Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by anarazel »

denwer wrote: post #4

Is that post for real? https://twitter.com/dinodaizovi/status/630972473945817088

archive.org has a lot of the older blogposts (https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://blogs.oracle.com/marya...) and sufficiently many are old and in a similar tone that this appears to be authentic. E.g.:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140313161522/https://blogs.ora...

Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by notacoward »

quesera wrote: post #10

Wow. Someone's been hitting the Kool-Aid pretty hard. I've seen this institutional hubris first-hand. The unshakable belief (typically by nontechnical management) that all of the smartest people in the world are employed here , working for me . It always ends badly.

Indeed, it does tend to end badly, and the best example is a company that ended up being bought by Oracle. The arrogant tone of this post reminds me very much of the flurry of blog posts that came out when ZFS and DTrace were first introduced. Remember "The Last Word in File Systems"? That kind of arrogance, complacency, and impatience with interlocutors is mildly annoying to developers elsewhere. It's more than annoying to customers, and to sales people who feel unsafe pushing products whose developers continually undermine them. That's why Sun is no more. Oracle might want to consider that before they start relying on this kind of astroturf to convince anyone of anything.

Re: “Stop reverse engineering our code”

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Post by throwaway7767 »

wolfgke wrote: post #57
juliangregorian wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scorn for customers in general is palpable. Why is Oracle even allowing this person to be a voice for their brand?

> Why is Oracle even allowing this person to be a voice for their brand? Because her text will probably only infuriate people that will arguably never be Oracle customers?

> Because her text will probably only infuriate people that will arguably never be Oracle customers?

As a sysadmin with customers who run oracle, and who put some stock in what I say, I can say I am more likely to warn people away from oracle in the future. While in some companies, tech purchasing decisions are made by suits with little or no input from techies, that's not universal.

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