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Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#91
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Why is paying with credit cards hard for Europeans?

Because the majority don't have/want credit cards.

I'm European and I'm yet to find a credit card field where I can't put my debit card number. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#92
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is paying with credit cards hard for Europeans?

Because the majority don't have/want credit cards.

What kind of credit card form doesn't allow debit cards? I've never seen one and been shopping all over Europe, both online and in person.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#93
A slight tangent but good feedback to OP regardless:

I use MaxMind at work but because we're on the RoR stack, we have to download and commit the massive 30MB databases into our repository in order for it to be used on Heroku. We use https://github.com/yhirose/maxminddb which seems to be the only good option available that reads the new "mmdb" format. It's a complete pain to have to commit such massive DBs for it to work and would prefer for Rails to fetch the database upon initialization, cache it for at most 2 days and redownload if it hasn't already been restarted by Heroku.

If you can provide a solution to that, it would give us enough value for me to pay a few dollars per month for it.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#95

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Because the majority don't have/want credit cards.

how do you pay for things online?

In Belgium something called MrCash is popular, The Netherlands has iDeal supported by pretty much all banks. Other than that: bank transfers, direct debit, or third-party things like PayPal (or in my case, Bitcoin).

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#96
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I'm not sure I want a free alternative. I want an inexpensive option that I'm pretty sure won't get acquired and shutdown, but also has reasonable enough revenue to remain in business, occasionally blessing me with new features. A free service like locationkit (seen here a few days ago IIRC) looks OK, and I'm reasonably sure it's supported by revenues for other services from the parent company. However, even that fee…

That sounds a lot like some of MaxMind's products.

I think it is. I've not tested their quality, but saw their pricing - buy credits then they get used up per API call, similar to Twilio's per minute deductions from a credit. If the OP has a way to best MaxMind's quality,and can charge, that'd be good. But the OP was talking about a 'free' model, which I'm not really interested in.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the majority don't have/want credit cards.

I'm European and I'm yet to find a credit card field where I can't put my debit card number. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Debit card number is not your IBAN, right? Because that's the only number on my bank card and it never works (because all forms want your "credit card" number, I thought).

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#98
post #65

honest opinion: I hate geoip. I think judging your visitors from their geolocation is more and more becoming a problem. It goes against the fundamental value of the Internet being a global network. I don't want Netflix to sell a sub-standard product in some countries because some licensing foo. I want everyone on this planet to have access to the same Internet. If I could I would redesign internet routing in a way th…

GeoIP can be used for good. For example it can be used to set defaults for various forms and choices. Why should you have to scroll past about half the world's countries just to select yours? The most likely airport I want is the closest one. Same for store locators.

Estimating my taxes, shipping charges and delivery date are great too. Even sorting products and choices by what those in my area prefer is great too.

The geoip doesn't need to be street level accurate, but to the nearest ~30 miles can make the online experience much more pleasant and sensible.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#99

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In that case, the customer could cheat. I am not totally sure about the current discussion on that, but the problem is, that you definitively can not rely on the address given of the customer, because in this case the customer will always give a country with the lowest sales tax. Also you must provide proofs for the location. The IP address is IMHO (and not only my opinion) better and will be more likely be recognize…

In Denmark, at least, billing address is standard for non-physical goods as well. It's validated via the payment method, typically credit card or bank transfer. It's possible to cheat this, too, but harder than just making up a fake address. Afaik none of the main online sellers in DK are relying on IP address currently, in part because accuracy is not good enough, and in part because people traveling across borders…

A parallel poster posted an official link from the British Government:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-dig...

There is clearly stated, that IP information is one of the proofs accepted for the country determination.

So, maybe next time, please first ask before judge.

Re: Ask HN: Who here would be interested in a free daily updated GeoIP database?

#100
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(Disclaimer: I work for MaxMind) As far as formats go, if anyone is thinking of putting together a custom database with information keyed on IP address or IP ranges, I'd encourage you to look into our MaxMind DB format: http://maxmind.github.io/MaxMind-DB/ There are open source file readers available in many languages: https://github.com/maxmind/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&query=MaxMind-DB There's also an open source writer http…

I don't work for MaxMind and I'd recommend it too.

A couple years ago I worked on a project that involved processing the "Internet Census of 2012" data.

The MaxMind DB format was a fast, efficient way to store simple data keyed on IPs and subnets.

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