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From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

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Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like the moon? Yes. You mean like meteosat? No. A 4 metre wide object is going to be such a small proportion of the size of a single pixel that it will be completely invisible.

Does anyone know why they decided to go with just a 4 megapixel camera? I guess they could settle for taking more narrow images and recombining later but it seems better to take one image and crop if they are just interested in small parts. Plus you have the option for digital zoom.

They are not even using the 4MB as it is. It takes time to download an image, and apparently they are more interested in what they call 'downlink cadence' - number of images per hour. I don't know enough about the science to say what the desired resolution would be - meaning, would a 50MB sensor actually produce better science for the mission of the DSCOVR (clearly it could be used for other science once you get the resolution good enough).

The specifics are here: http://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/DSCOVR/pdf/DSCOVR%20-%20EPIC%20In...

Also, DSCOVR was initially built for the Triana mission in the late 90s, and it's main purpose was just to serve live-ish images on the internet. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Climate_Observatory)

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

#93

Honest question: Why don't the clouds seen on Earth show any activity or movement over the course of this time lapse?

It's only about 20 pictures at 30 second intervals each, which is only 10 minutes. From a million miles away, you wouldn't see noticeable changes in ten minutes. Much like when you are flying in a plane over the ocean and the waves look still.

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

#94

What struck me about this was how huge the moon looks compared to the earth. We are used to seeing this as a small object in the sky (after all, it's 2000 miles across and 200000 miles away). But when viewed from afar...you're seeing an object with an 8K mi diameter and another with a 2K mi diameter, not that different in size at all. Which, I guess is another way to say: the earth just ain't that big.

The relative sizes of objects in a photo like this will vary depending on whether you're close up and using a wider angle lens, compared to being far away with a very zoomy telephoto.

It approaches an "apples to apples" size comparison asymptotically as you move infinitely far away with an infinitely zoomed lens.

For a quick illustration: http://i.imgur.com/zME26IW.png

When you're up close, the moon obscures a much larger portion of the Earth, even though they're not changing size.

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

#95

Honest question: Why don't the clouds seen on Earth show any activity or movement over the course of this time lapse?

It's only about 20 pictures at 30 second intervals each, which is only 10 minutes. From a million miles away, you wouldn't see noticeable changes in ten minutes. Much like when you are flying in a plane over the ocean and the waves look still.

The pictures were taken over 5 hours. You can see that the satellite is in a stationary position over the day side of earth.

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

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Maybe as interesting is where this satellite is: The Lagrange L1 point. The 5 Lagrange points in essence allow orbiting bodies to break Kepler's laws. A satellite a million miles closer to the Sun shouldn't have the same orbital period as the Earth... but it does.

That's because Kepler only assumes 1-body interaction! With 2-body, or N-body, then you get lagrange points. It doesn't "break" Kepler's law, it is just that Kepler law doesn't apply in 3-body interactions.

This might just be semantics, but you get Lagrange points with the simplest Kepler example, 1 body around the sun, or in other words, a 2 body interaction.

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

#97

It is really cool how the NASA gives us a better understanding of the universe and our place in it by publishing all these nice pictures. However, I would like to have one easy accessible source for all the nice pictures that is daily updated and could be synchronized to a local school server e.g. with rsync. Is there one "ḧere-are-all-the-pics"-ftp server anywhere? It is quite time consuming to browse the hundreds o…

Not quite what you requested, but NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day[1] is very cool. It has an archive dating back to the 1995! [1] - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/

Completely unnecessary side note: It's run by one of my old professors[1]! The whole physics department at Michigan Tech is a cool little diamond in the middle of the Upper Peninsula rough.

1: http://www.phy.mtu.edu/faculty/Nemiroff.html

Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

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It is really cool how the NASA gives us a better understanding of the universe and our place in it by publishing all these nice pictures. However, I would like to have one easy accessible source for all the nice pictures that is daily updated and could be synchronized to a local school server e.g. with rsync. Is there one "ḧere-are-all-the-pics"-ftp server anywhere? It is quite time consuming to browse the hundreds o…

The image, without the Javascript:

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/dsc...

Interesting note (from NASA?) to visitors embedded in the page:

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Re: From a million miles away, NASA camera shows moon crossing face of Earth

#100
Here's what one million miles looks like side on...(whipped up in Photoshop)

Best viewed at 100%. The image is more or less to scale. Scroll a million miles to the right to find moon and camera.

(don't worry it's only a 300K jpeg)

http://ozimg.s3.amazonaws.com/earth-moon-from-million-miles....

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