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VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by drivers99 »

pseudohadamard wrote: post #558
isityettime wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people who think of themselves as able-bodied never think to poke around in the Accessibility sections of their settings menus. But it turns out that accessibility options are for everyone; people should really think of and evaluate them as first class tools more often

They really should just have a single checkbox, "Prioritise usability over wank", and leave it at that.

That's an interesting idea: if you're thinking of having an accessibility option, consider just making it the default.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by morgankrey »

indrora wrote: post #248
fhn wrote: post #228

I've been hesitant to use Zed mostly because I didn't want to learn new key but last week, I finally jumped in and remapped to keys that I like. It works really well.

FYI you should read Zed's FAQ on data retention. It's very "Trust Me Bro". My workplace has already banned Zed after legal review purely on the lack of any controls over the collaboration feature that gets turned on the instant that you log into Github with it.

Hey, I work at Zed - happy to help or clarify anything that we're not doing a good job of laying out. What FAQ are you referring to?

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by xp84 »

jayd16 wrote: post #810
xp84 wrote: post #289

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It wasn’t AI that brought us Apple’s gray on slightly-lighter-gray UI standards, nor the 10,000,000 ••• menus that have infested every webapp in the past 10 years as an alternative to thoughtful UI design. We humans made everything shitty before we made AI.

What is it about AI where the discussion is immediately derailed with whataboutism? Like, are these actually good faith comments? What's the point of bringing up "well some other bad stuff already existed"?

It’s not whataboutism, I’m simply challenging the notion that AI caused this. UI has been in the toilet and worsening for 15 years.

A combination of trend (minimalism cult masquerading as sophistication), pragmatic trimming down of things to work on tiny screens, dumbing down things in an attempt to reduce complexity, and of course dark patterns, to push users toward profitable actions (like clicking ads or continued ‘engagement’) and away from costly ones (finding support, for instance).

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by bdangubic »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #867
bdangubic wrote: post #858

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sure did not look in 1942 like nazis were losing either. doesn’t look like in 2026 but time is a bitch and nazis eventually meet their fate

Then make the bet. If you think the trillionaires will fall, then stand against them. Don't take their money and wait for their inevitable fall when the working class gets organized and starts eating the rich. Hope you have an answer for their AI powered automated kill bots. Man made horrors, entirely within the realm of our comprehension.

> Then make the bet.

why do I need to make a bet? you mean to make money off this? I have more than I can spend in 4 lifetimes. also personally, betting is a telltale sign of a lack of intelligence so I would never make myself stoop that level where I "bet" on shit, one of the stupidest things humans do

> If you think the trillionaires will fall, then stand against them

I stand against them and would even if I didn't think they will fail.

> Don't take their money and wait for their inevitable fall

I don't take their money, don't do now and never have and never will. I would not work for a company Tesla or Meta if they offered me 7-digit salary.

> Hope you have an answer for their AI powered automated kill bots.

I personally don't but if there comes a time my assistance is needed to fight them I will gladly volunteer to help

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by saghm »

make3 wrote: post #820
saghm wrote: post #665

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This is honestly the most concerning part of all of this. You're saying you knew that this exact bug was present up front and still decided to release it? This basically invalidates the entire premise that it was an innocent mistake. It's impossible for me to believe that you actually thought that people wouldn't care about 100% of their commits being attributed to Copilot even when it was never used. Either you're m…

don't call it a bug, they were intentionally aggressively pushing marketing copy into people's commits. this was malice or greed

I think so too, but my point is that even according to their own words about what happened, the best possible interpretation is that they didn't mean to do it but knowingly let it happen. I agree that a worse version is more likely, but it's pretty damning when even the ceiling for what they can plausibly claim is "we intentionally didn't bother stopping it once it happened accidentally".

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by srikanthsastry »

To me, the more interesting question is the following. Why does the architecture make it possible for a system to collect user consent and divorce the enforcement of it from the consent collection itself? The proposed process fixes are good and all, but really, the fix IMHO should be structural. Your CI should fail if you don't propagate consent decisions down the stack.

Also worth noting: `Co-Authored-By` implies joint authorship. The Linux kernel uses `Assisted-by:` for AI specifically because the legal weight is different. And git history is permanent. You can revert a default. You can't revert commit history across thousands of repos.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

usrnm wrote: post #666
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #580

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A button looking like a button isn't an age (of the reader) thing.

Of course it is. What should a button on a screen look like, after all, it has absolutely nothing to do with a large mechanical button from the 80s the old designs tried to emulate. In fact, such buttons are becoming rare even in the physical world, the younger generation is more and more accustomed to touch buttons for operating all kinds of machinery around them. So "like a button" is very much an age thing

Game consoles are still pretty popular, I don't think people are going to forget what real buttons are for at least another couple of generations.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by matheusmoreira »

bdangubic wrote: post #894
matheusmoreira wrote: post #867

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then make the bet. If you think the trillionaires will fall, then stand against them. Don't take their money and wait for their inevitable fall when the working class gets organized and starts eating the rich. Hope you have an answer for their AI powered automated kill bots. Man made horrors, entirely within the realm of our comprehension.

> Then make the bet. why do I need to make a bet? you mean to make money off this? I have more than I can spend in 4 lifetimes. also personally, betting is a telltale sign of a lack of intelligence so I would never make myself stoop that level where I "bet" on shit, one of the stupidest things humans do > If you think the trillionaires will fall, then stand against them I stand against them and would even if I didn't…

> also personally, betting is a telltale sign of a lack of intelligence so I would never make myself stoop that level where I "bet" on shit, one of the stupidest things humans do

Everything is a bet. Buy into something? You're betting it'll succeed. Don't buy? You're betting it'll fail.

You are always positioned. If you could have taken a 7 figure job at Tesla but chose not to, you positioned yourself accordingly. It cost you a seven figure job. What it won you, only you can know that.

Deep down, I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I just don't think it's likely.

Re: VS Code inserting 'Co-Authored-by Copilot' into commits regardless of usage

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Post by matheusmoreira »

allarm wrote: post #884
matheusmoreira wrote: post #857

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> No one forced them at gunpoint Of course not. Modern weapons are far more sophisticated. Society does not need to point guns at people to drive behavior anymore, it is sufficient to deploy simple economics. People feel the sting of the economic lash just the same as the literal instrument.

Yeah sure :) People working in one of the most privileged professions on Earth are bound hand and foot with golden shackles and are forced - literally forced - to continue spreading evil throughout the world in order to keep their salaries of several hundred thousand dollars. The horror!

Yes? Refuse, and you lose all of those privileges. The golden shackles go away and are replaced with the rusty shackles of poverty. Feeling the pressure yet?

The richer you are, the more you've got to lose. Easy to be a radical when you've got nothing. Nowhere you can go but up. If you're privileged, there's a long way to fall.

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