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UK is being destroyed by the woke mind virus. They want random laws for online “safety” but are unable to deport even a small percentage of fake asylum seekers who have made the streets physically unsafe and are already convicted of sexual crimes. There are literally thousands of cases which seem like parody where convicted criminals either delay or escape deportations. Can’t investigate grooming gangs, can’t defend their boundaries, but surely can arrest people for Facebook posts and thought crimes.

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> Totalitarianism aside, I'm not sure about the stability either. Personally I suspect Xi Jinping's reign will end with some kind of bang, either an economic one or something relating to That’s a pretty big aside.

Not sure why you replied over here, but yeah, it sure is. Just trying to be clear about separating the moral judgement from the prediction.

Nesting.

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It’s as if British people belong to their government. Legally speaking, British people are subjects, not citizens.

This myth keeps getting repeated. It hasn't been true since 1949, when British subjects in the UK became Citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies. In 1983, the status of CUKC was renamed to British citizen (for those CUKCs resident in or closely connected with the UK: the situation in the remaining colonies was more complicated). At the same time, the status of British subject was officially restricted to those fe…

I was unaware of this. Thanks for the correction.

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Am I reading these views on HN? I had to check, it seems yes. :)

Diversity of views and expertise seems like a good thing.

Diversity of views doesn't mean the tolerance of all views.

It is fine to be intolerant of intolerance.

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This US regime isn't any different than the ayatollah, they also want christian sharia laws and to oppress women.

I wish you had traveled the world and would have seen whats really on the ground, instead of staying in your bubble and earlying out with a "everyone is just like me". The us is the most harmless empire that ever was. The most extreme case in the us evangelical bullshit is a daily buisness case.

Literal neo-nazis have existed within the administration at relatively high levels (and likely still do, though they've gotten better about not outright bragging about it like some of those dipshits). People at even higher levels talk about conversations with literal neo-nazis, how they listen to their podcasts, etc. I'm not using this in the "I think everyone that has even remotely fascist tendencies is a neo-nazi" manner, I am using it in the "No these people are literally self described neo-nazis" manner.

The reality of the USA post WW2 is one that is full of plenty of shame. It still might be the most harmless empire there ever was, but that's a relative statement - the US has done * a lot* of harm. Perhaps a lot of good, too. Maybe even more good than harm. But almost all of that harm was unnecessary. But the past is not the future, and the present shows us marching to a darker and darker future.

Better to raise the alarm now and stop that descent rather than letting it continue.

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China has a host of factors that make their current system very fragile. I doubt they make it five more years before turbulence hits.

Been hearing that said repeatedly since 1989. I've never once heard it from somebody who correctly anticipated China's rise though. The imminent collapse story just quietly changes every 5 years or so. If the US has an imperial rival one thing you can almost guarantee is that the predictions of economic collapse will be as frequent as they are absurdly overblown and as always, This Time It's Different.

Look, if Gordon Chang and Peter Zeihan continue to predict China will fall for long enough, someday they'll be right. Maybe. Probably.

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It’s pretty damned hard to completely secure any area from a potential attack when all one side needs is a drone. That’s a pretty specific high bar when we’ve destroyed most of their navy, Air Force, etc, all within a couple of weeks.

> It’s pretty damned hard to completely secure any area from a potential attack when all one side needs is a drone. Man, maybe the US should have had a contingency plan to address the drone issue before launching an unprovoked attack. > That’s a pretty specific high bar It's the bar that matters.

The best part is that Ukraine wanted to sell us their anti-drone tech to us a year ago and Trump and co didn't see fit to pursue it.

Did they not know that the Shahed-136 has seen massive fucking use in Ukraine by Russia? Did they not think that Ukraine now being able to shoot like 75%+ of them down might be an indication that, if we are planning to start some stupid pointless war with the country that makes these drones, it might be a good idea to have that same capability?

Or did they think we have an infinite ammo cheat, and we can just launch an infinite number of missiles that cost millions of dollars to shoot down a drone that costs tens of thousands?

We had literally years of intelligence on the capabilities of these drones. The admin claims "We thought it was Zelensky being Zelensky. Self promotion" - but we know how successful their anti-drone capabilities are. We have the data! YOU JUST HAD TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE TO VERIFY IT. The sheer incompetence of these people is astounding.

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Guess how one gets "a suitable and sufficient illegal content risk assessment"? You need to buy it from compliance companies which lobbied for the law in the UK, run by ex regulators. https://x.com/moo9000/status/1950866445186818209?s=20

It means you have to do your paperwork so you can’t then pretend you “didn’t know” csam can exist on your website when repeatedly pointed out. As far as regulation goes this is pretty light and allowing. It’s more annoying than not having any laws at all sure, but zero regulation regime failed (from the point of view of powers that be). Next on the escalation ladder is govt writing the rules for you that you either t…

CSAM is illegal in the US. This is not about it.

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i love the cognitive dissonance of some USians in this comment section who believe in both of these statements: "4chan is a US company operating in the US, sure it serves content to global users but the jurisdiction is the US, we have free speech, ..." "Sure, Company X is operating in Europe, but it also serves US users so it has to respect our laws and it's warranted for the US to apply pressure and fines." at least…

Yes, I was reading these comments today and I have seen this argument coming from different people multiple times. It's incredible, right?

It is...but it confirms people's imperialist mindsets. Fine to meddle with and dictate other countries, but how dare them to tell us what to do or not to do.

Threatening to invade Denmark and calling NATO a joke and weak.

A couple of months later blame NATO for not helping in a war you started yourself.

A fish rots from the head down :)

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It doesn't matter where 4Chan is incorporated if it offers a service available to other countries. If I offer a service in US I still have to respect US law, it doesn't matter that I'm based in Luxembourg or New Zealand. The same applies in reverse. E.g. many US news outlets never cared to implement gdpr and geoblocked European users from accessing their websites.

Thinking that you are operating in the UK because a UK user can theoretically send packets to you, is similar to thinking a corner store in Japan is operating in the UK because a brit can theoretically get on a plane and fly there to shop.

No, if a Brit goes to shop in Japan the transaction happens in Japan. So the shop operates entirely in Japan.
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