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Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by stingraycharles »

dang wrote: post #793
kjuulh wrote: post #571

I am 100% behind this. I've been browsing hackernews since I started in tech, it is the only forum i regularly browse, and partake in. Simply because the quality of submissions and conversations are so high. There has been more AI related articles this part year, and it only seems ramping. I personally haven't found the AI part of the comments as big of a deal but dang and tom might be doing more than I realize on th…

The dynamics of content production are shifting hard right now. Things that used to signal something interesting are being generated in minutes with little thought. It's getting democratized, but also commoditized. It's too soon to know how this is going to shake out, so we should resist the temptation to impose rules prematurely. And we should especially not do so out of resistance to change (when has that ever work…

Isn’t that going to cause more spam, though, from people that start using AI to comment until their account is mature enough to post a Show HN?

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by Hendrikto »

kjuulh wrote: post #571

I am 100% behind this. I've been browsing hackernews since I started in tech, it is the only forum i regularly browse, and partake in. Simply because the quality of submissions and conversations are so high. There has been more AI related articles this part year, and it only seems ramping. I personally haven't found the AI part of the comments as big of a deal but dang and tom might be doing more than I realize on th…

> Though I do wish we'd see less AI related posts on the front page, they simply aren't sparking curiosity, it is the same wrapped in a different format, a different person commenting on our struggles and wins with AI, the 10th software "rewritten" by an AI.

Exactly. I feel like HN has never been this boring. Enough of the slop, let’s talk about interesting stuff again!

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by darkwater »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #335

I wish more people would filter their comments through AI. It has so many benefits. If you're being emotional, it can detect that and rewrite your comment to be less confrontational and more constructive. If you're positing a position out of ignorance or as an armchair expert, it can verify your claims before posting. Most of the mod's problems would be solved if every comment were filtered through the HN guidelines…

> If you're being emotional, it can detect that and rewrite your comment to be less confrontational and more constructive

Are you learning something in the process? does ti have your full emotional context, beside the full conversation context? There are probably many bade side-effects if people would actually start doing what you mention at scale.

One thing is computer code, which is an intermediate product to an end (instruct the computer what it needs to do) and another is YOUR direct output to some other human being, which is the end game in human-to-human communication.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by GrinningFool »

spzzz wrote: post #875

Me not native speeker. AI help me too get my point front much more cleanly. It hard not look like dummy. Im of course exaggerating, but it is so easy just to run the text through an AI to make it sound "better" without changing what im trying to express. --- I’m not a native speaker, so AI helps me get my point across more clearly. It’s hard not to come across like a dummy otherwise. Of course I’m exaggerating, but i…

The removal of the quotes around "better" discards an entire layer of meaning.

It also loses the voice that was present in the 'before' version. Typos/misuses and all. More tangibly, an entire layer of meaning was dropped when it removed the quotes around 'better'.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by lionkor »

planb wrote: post #815
uni_baconcat wrote: post #754

For quite a while, I like use LLM to refine and fix my grammar issue, but my colleagues and professors reminds me that it was way too obvious. They said they can tolerate some mistakes in my words, but no tolerance for AI generated content.

As a non native speaker, I sometimes use LLMs to search for a way to formulate my thoughts like I intend them to be received by the reader. I'd never just copy the verbatim LLM output somewhere, it always sounds blunt and not like me, but I gladly apply grammar corrections or better phrasing. I'd normally not do this for a text of this length, but just for fun, here's what ChatGPT suggests: As a non-native speaker, I…

But we want to know what YOU have to say. YOU. If we want, we can go and copy paste your comment into our LLM to make it easier to understand.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by lionkor »

If you feel the need to fix/edit your own comments with AI, keep in mind that this is not necessary at all. If someone can't figure out what you're saying, and don't care to try, they can run their LLM over it and have it summarize it with emojis, bullet points, and slightly changed content. You dont need to do that for all of us.

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by hollowturtle »

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling

Reading the site in past 2 years left me with the feeling that HN has been injected by subtle to catch AI marketing campaigns. It's exausting and calling out astroturfers imo is not that bad

Re: Don't post generated/AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans

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Post by hrmtst93837 »

lionkor wrote: post #897

If you feel the need to fix/edit your own comments with AI, keep in mind that this is not necessary at all. If someone can't figure out what you're saying, and don't care to try, they can run their LLM over it and have it summarize it with emojis, bullet points, and slightly changed content. You dont need to do that for all of us.

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