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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by fullstop »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #890
fullstop wrote: post #868

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Where I'm from, I am legally required to have proof of ID with me all the time. So basically used to never leaving home without it. Yes, I too have proof of ID. It does not prove that I am a citizen. I can also tell you that children in the USA do not carry ID. > No, going back to what you're saying: why is it wrong to deport somebody that came to the US illegally? If they were brought here as young children, yes,…

> Yes, I too have proof of ID. It does not prove that I am a citizen. I can also tell you that children in the USA do not carry ID. I guess here is the misunderstanding. I cannot get an ID without being a citizen.

Citizenship is a Federal thing, but our IDs are provided by the State.

You also didn't answer my question about us likely sending Somalis off to their deaths.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

lm28469 wrote: post #790
simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

> The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. I'd say the classic example is when a small german man with a mustache starts looking in religious registries to find the address of certain types of people

I never really understood that angle - do you think the Germans would have thrown their hands up and not killed anyone because they lacked accurate data on who was Jewish?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by keernan »

fn-mote wrote: post #878
LadyCailin wrote: post #504

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Who is most responsible for stopping Trump from doing horrible shit? Besides of course, Trump himself. Surely that must be his base, yes? Then followed by Americans at large. It’s surely not, say, Canada’s responsibility, no? There’s a spectrum of responsibility, and you can find out who is at the top of that spectrum of those that think the thing is bad, and hold them at least morally responsible. In this case, yes,…

> Who is most responsible for stopping Trump from doing horrible shit? The Supreme Court. Then congressional leadership of both parties. After that perhaps we could look to governors of large states like New York or California.

>>The Supreme Court

Please explain how the Supreme Court has any power to stop a President surrounded by heads of the FBI, Homeland Security - all of whom have sworn allegiance to the Man ( Trump ) and not to the Office?

As a trial attorney for 40+ years ( now retired ), it is my impression that SCOTUS is acutely aware of their powerless position vis-a-vis Trump and has tried to avoid decisions that prompt him to finally declare that SCOTUS can only offer non-binding advice to the Executive Branch.

Note: I say this while painfully aware that some ( eg Thomas and Alito ) have their own agenda and no misgivings that the pro-Trump rulings have changed the balance of power between SCOTUS and the Executive. While I am suspicious of the intentions of the other conversative Justices, I lean towards believing that they voted as they did because they knew the alterative was to deal with the crisis of the President declaring SCOTUS has zero authority over the Executive.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by trinsic2 »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

It reminds me of the Sokovia Accords Debate[0]

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmjRhmk800U

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by salawat »

ahtihn wrote: post #440
filoeleven wrote: post #170

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The "hide" link is right next to the "flag" link. Using flag instead of hide puts more strain on the mods, and is not the right thing to do for "this topic doesn't apply to my interests."

What if I would prefer that these topics don't show up at all? What if I'm concerned that leaving such topics up would attract more of the kind of people that prefer discussing these topics over tech topics? Hiding doesn't fix the problem.

>Hiding doesn't fix the problem.

If your problem is that you have no means to control what other people find important enough to talk about on a public forum, in their spare time, or that the means at your disposal to do so are insufficient to make other people saying things that make you uncomfortable go away... That isn't a problem that can or should should be fixed. Hell, the desire you've expressed could be uncharitably interpreted being contributory to part of the problem that has people around you discussing politics in the first place.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by mrguyorama »

asksomeoneelse wrote: post #870
fn-mote wrote: post #815

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The idea that Google’s lack of knowledge of you a decade ago is somehow related to what they know today is naive. Dangerously naive, I would say. Ad targeting technology (= knowledge about you) is shocking good now.

Color me unconvinced. Google can't even figure what language I speak even though I voluntarily provide them the information in several different ways. I can't understand half the ads they serve me.

Google doesn't choose what ad to show you. Google serves up a platter of details and auctions the ad placement off to the highest bidder.

That platter of details is not shown to you, the consumer.

What you are experiencing is that your ad profile isn't valuable to most bidders, ie you don't buy stuff as much as other people do, or your ad profile is somehow super attractive to stupid companies that suck at running ads who are overpaying for bad matches.

It is not evidence that google knows nothing about you.

Google is pleased that you think they don't know you. It helps keep the pressure down when people mistake this system for "Perfectly target ads". The system is designed to make google money regardless of how good or bad their profile of you is.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by blactuary »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #871
blactuary wrote: post #862

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This is gross man. Abusive relationships are way more complicated than that, judging someone in this situation because you read one article about it is out of line

It's the article supplied. If you have another article that says anything different, then supply it. If you have further insight into this specific instance, give it.

It has nothing to do with reading another article and I have absolutely no insight into this instance and neither do you. You do not and cannot know what is going on in that woman's life to judge her like that, and it's really gross to try and do so.

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Post by commiepatrol »

AngryData wrote: post #416
commiepatrol wrote: post #302

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[flagged]

You are proof that propaganda works because nobody is telling illegals to go to their cities.

Even if nobody is telling them nothing is being done about them being here. They need to be arrested and thrown out. This isn't a free candy factory.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by bigyabai »

midlander wrote: post #807
koakuma-chan wrote: post #792

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Where do their loyalties lie? In Germany and Israel?

You think that people who were not born in America cannot be trusted / are not moral?

Sometimes, when their account is green and they refuse to interact with ordinary topics on-merit.

When that happens, I click the "flag" button on every comment they write and watch them fulminate.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by shimman »

EngineerUSA wrote: post #186

Palantir is interesting. Founded by a closeted German, run by an Israeli operative, and a 3rd arm of the federal gov. I wish we could prosecute it in my lifetime for the numerous violations of privacy it undertakes, but the world does not work that way. The rich enjoy private jets subsidized by our hard-earned taxes, while violating ideals held by our Founding fathers (for what would Thiel or the current CEO know abo…

Most of the founding fathers were slavers that wanted to keep their slaves while hating the vast majority of people. When they wrote the constitution they were only thinking of rich white landowners, 80% of the people posting in this thread would not have suffrage and couldn't legally participate in the government. Remember this next time you read words about the "rights of man" because it's not me or you.

The founding fathers would absolutely love the idea of Palantir and if you don't think so go look at who wrote the Fugitive Slave Act, who agreed with it, and who enforced it.

I mean the "tyranny of the majority?" What a crock of shit, they were the tyranny that enforced slavery for 80 years.

George Washington would have absolutely used this tech to try to steal back his "property" from free states (something he tried to do but regularly failed or didn't want to argue in the courts):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhxivf0gmj8

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