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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by antod »

fzeindl wrote: post #592
iLemming wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

That is incidentally one of the many papercuts that are widely accepted in Windows, but never were a problem on a mac. Don’t try to interact with a windows desktop while it is still booting up. Better to wait for everything to settle down, otherwise apps will constantly snatch away focus and your typing will go into random applications.

I remember using the NT5 betas (that became Win2k) and being so pleased that the focus (not) stealing was working much better. They "fixed" that for the final release

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lostlogin »

signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

Tahoe: The opposite of Snow Leopard.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lostlogin »

fzeindl wrote: post #592
iLemming wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

That is incidentally one of the many papercuts that are widely accepted in Windows, but never were a problem on a mac. Don’t try to interact with a windows desktop while it is still booting up. Better to wait for everything to settle down, otherwise apps will constantly snatch away focus and your typing will go into random applications.

> That is incidentally one of the many papercuts that are widely accepted in Windows

A flashing cursor in an inactive text box. Possibly the most annoying of bugs.

Looking at you Windows, COMRAD and every login I ever do.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lostlogin »

sumo89 wrote: post #603
fzeindl wrote: post #592

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is incidentally one of the many papercuts that are widely accepted in Windows, but never were a problem on a mac. Don’t try to interact with a windows desktop while it is still booting up. Better to wait for everything to settle down, otherwise apps will constantly snatch away focus and your typing will go into random applications.

I recently built a windows PC again for gaming. Haven't used one for years. Everything's fresh, loads of room on hard drives etc and still sometimes it'll just be weird and needs a reset. But it doesn't surprise me, it's sad we've come to tolerate that from the world's most popular OS.

> the world's most popular OS.

No.

Most common? Loathed? Used? Most tolerated?

It’s not liked, and ‘popular’ implies that.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by lostlogin »

IrishTechie wrote: post #608
sumo89 wrote: post #603

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently built a windows PC again for gaming. Haven't used one for years. Everything's fresh, loads of room on hard drives etc and still sometimes it'll just be weird and needs a reset. But it doesn't surprise me, it's sad we've come to tolerate that from the world's most popular OS.

I have a Windows 11, macOS and Ubuntu Desktop VM that I alternate across throughout the week, I find I need to reset all three periodically to sort out random weirdness. It has more to do with which machine I've used most in the last few weeks not which OS is in-use in my experience.

I agree.

Mac OS used to be rock solid. We had machines at work that had uptime measured in years. My own machine would go months.

It doesn’t anymore. Restarted twice today.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by miladyincontrol »

Is this a monitor resolution or custom HiDPI scaling issue or something? I genuinely do not have their issue with resizing windows, nor do my tolerances seem anything as odd as they claim to have.

Seems like most the attention this is getting is people wanting to grave dance Apple at any chance given.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by elzbardico »

lostlogin wrote: post #894
sumo89 wrote: post #603

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently built a windows PC again for gaming. Haven't used one for years. Everything's fresh, loads of room on hard drives etc and still sometimes it'll just be weird and needs a reset. But it doesn't surprise me, it's sad we've come to tolerate that from the world's most popular OS.

> the world's most popular OS. No. Most common? Loathed? Used? Most tolerated? It’s not liked, and ‘popular’ implies that.

I'd say that most PC users have vague knowledge that linux or MacOS exists.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by hyperjeff »

postalcoder wrote: post #330
ValentineC wrote: post #181

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> I swear, this reign of visual artists as dictators has to stop. > I'm sure people noticed this issue internally and brought it up but some thing by some designer was seen as biblically sacred and overruled all reason. Funny how Apple went from Jony Ive sacrificing hardware usability for "beauty" (touch bars and butterfly switches) to Alan Dye mucking up macOS and iOS with Liquid glAss.

The Touch Bar implementation sucked but I'm going to defend that attempt 100 out of 100 times. If Apple didn't remove the function keys I think it would have been a hit feature. There wasn't proper commitment to the feature.

Full agree. The TouchBar was a genuine innovation that gave new ways to interact with data and context. But without the function keys (and the real ESC) there were frequent accidental touches on the bar and a real tactile loss for existing function key intuitions. And now an extremely rare, genuine, programmable HCI innovation is scuttled because of an unthought-thru roll out. A missed opportunity. (I keep my 2019 MBP with the good keyboard largely for this, but ultimately the laptop was ruined by the super hot Intel cpu, which also makes the touch bar uncomfortable to use at times.)

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by larrik »

Saline9515 wrote: post #114
foxandmouse wrote: post #57

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> Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Yes, but Linux is finally in that position, not to mention we're seeing silicon from intel and amd that can compete with the M series on mobile devices.

Linux isn't in position regarding display/UI. It doesn't handles HiDPI (e.g 4K) screen uniformly, leading to a lot of blurry apps depending on the display abstraction used (Wayland/X11) and compositor (GNOME, KDE, etc, all behave differently). Let's not even talk about the case when you have monitors that have different DPI, something that is handled seamlessly by MacOS, unlike Linux where it feels like a d20 roll de…

I went from Linux (10 years) to Mac (4 years) to Windows (8 months) to back to Mac. (I have not upgraded to Tahoe, and didn't even realize it was so different until recently)

IMO, there's basically no problem Linux has that isn't worse in Windows (at the OS level). Especially once you get into laptops.

My final conclusion was that I hate computers.

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