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Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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post #883

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I have become an aggressive counter-flasher. This has yielded in some cases new knowledge - that the low beams of a lot of cars these days look like high beams (indicated when they flash back, and it's the brightness of a thousand suns). For those behind me, I've discovered that my side mirror has an angle where it reliably bounces the beams back. I've gotten more than a couple of drivers to turn their beams down wit…

When I get incorrectly flashed I force my high beams on and keep them on, FYI. Don't do it.

Maybe this ought to indicate to you that your low beams are blinding other drivers dangerously.

If you have OEM headlights, I can understand your frustration - neither you nor the other driver has control over that. I think this is what OP posted this whole thread about.

If, however, you've installed third-party LED headlights, then you're sort of on the hook for this.

I'd add that whoever it was that 'incorrectly' flashed you is long gone by the time you're leaving the highs on and blinding everyone in your path. That's aggressive and uncalled for.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

#893
post #883

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When I get incorrectly flashed I force my high beams on and keep them on, FYI. Don't do it.

Maybe this ought to indicate to you that your low beams are blinding other drivers dangerously. If you have OEM headlights, I can understand your frustration - neither you nor the other driver has control over that. I think this is what OP posted this whole thread about. If, however, you've installed third-party LED headlights, then you're sort of on the hook for this. I'd add that whoever it was that 'incorrectly' f…

I only do it if no one is behind the flasher; I thought was obvious. And I have OEM headlights.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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post #380

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> Lately, I see a lot of drivers who turn on their brights and just leave them on and this includes cars with the older halogen and even incandescents. This is a change in behavior. This is one of my pet peeves. I've categorized it into what I believe are the main causes: 1. People just don't know as well today that the blue indicator means you're blinding people 2. People with newer cars which will automatically tur…

I might just be getting old, but more and more I see people not using indicators and not understanding the rules of junctions. Tail gating also really annoying. I was in a mates car recently and it scared the hell out of me, he was tail gating for most of a 3 hour journey. Eventually we got to a bit with chevrons and he wasn't obeying the rule staying N chevrons away from the car in front. I told him and he replied "…

> I might just be getting old, but more and more I see people not using indicators and not understanding the rules of junctions. Tail gating also really annoying.

Same. I've also noticed that people entering the interstate seem to _expect_ that cars already on the interstate move over, or change speed to let them merge. Usually at 10-15 MPH slower than the speed of traffic.

I've made a point to, when I cannot move over, remain in my lane at the same speed. And I've had people just absolutely wait until the last moment of a long on-ramp to speed up, or slow down to merge. It's bizarre.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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post #834

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> but afaik EVs don't have efficiency standards This is a huge hole in the regulatory regime. It doesn't make sense to be as wasteful with electrons as we are with hydrocarbons. Sure the electron can be generated cleanly or with higher efficiency, but that doesn't negate the pursuit of encouraging increased utility.

Isn't this currently covered with range?

No? You can just make a 2 ton massive EV with a massive battery to get more range, ruining the roads more, using more resources to make that battery. Basically the Rivian model.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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Honestly I'm seeing the opposite. Some new cars, I THINK Camry's, have taillights so bright it's blinding to wait behind one at a stoplight. They don't need to shine just glow so you can see them.

I have never understood why everyone seems to immediately forget everything in their driving lessons as soon as they pass their test. When you're waiting at a red light, you're meant to have the hand brake on (which does not illuminate the brake lights), not your foot on the brake, unless you know that the light is going to turn green very soon, or you're trying to catch the attention of someone coming up behind who…

>When you're waiting at a red light, you're meant to have the hand brake on

That is... incorrect.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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> When you're waiting at a red light, you're meant to have the hand brake on (which does not illuminate the brake lights), not your foot on the brake, unless you know that the light is going to turn green very soon I was definitely not taught this as a US driving student. Is this a UK thing?

I can't see how it would be country-specific. How else would you have any control of the forward motion of the vehicle otherwise, especially when starting on an uphill slope? You're meant to raise the clutch to the biting point and apply some accelerator and release the handbrake when you are confident that the engine will prevent the car from moving backwards. Taking the foot off the brake and hoping you can move it…

>You're meant to raise the clutch to the biting point and apply some accelerator and release the handbrake when you are confident that the engine will prevent the car from moving backwards.

You sit there with the gearbox in neutral and your left foot off the clutch (or in gear and on the clutch if green light imminent) with your right foot on the brake.

In gear, clutch to biting point (which will prevent rolling backward), right foot off the brake and then gradually on the accelerator while you let off the clutch pedal with your left foot.

The handbrake literally never enters into it, and the vehicle never rolls back.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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Depends on the car. Most ICE automatics will creep forward, EVs will sit there until you hit the accelerator, manual ICE cars (especially diesels) can be held on the clutch just under the 'biting point' which will stop the vehicle moving backwards.

EVs will sit there until you hit the accelerator, Some do, some don't. Most I've driven try to replicate the bug in ICE automatics that causes the car to creep when your foot's not on the brake. manual ICE cars (especially diesels) can be held on the clutch just under the 'biting point' I, too, love the smell of burning clutch plates. Use the brake, that's what it's there for.

>the bug in ICE automatics that causes the car to creep when your foot's not on the brake

Part of how the torque converter works; a feature which prevents the vehicle from rolling backwards on a hill, not a bug.

Re: Nearly all UK drivers say headlights are too bright

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post #827

actually, this is on my list of signs that our civilization is fscked...

It certainly is a sign that people are note very considerate of others.

i think it's much worse than that: first, most drivers are probably not aware of the problem at all (i mean that their (often brand new) car is part of the problem).

just consider e.g. the number of people who are driving in fog or rain without their headlight turned on... because nowadays the front lights are always on due to some law... but the back of their car is completely dark. and no amount of flashing any lights makes them realize this.

or the number of people who are clueless about the fact that the headlight agle can be adjusted on most cars today, and what that means and/or how that works.

second, it's the institutions that are failing here, which is *way more concerning* than some clueles people driving around on the roads...

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