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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Submarines generally aren’t fishing.

And we're ok with murdering dozens of people that might maybe have some kind of drugs on them? In peacetime? Without evidence? Outside of our own territory/water? We're lucky Venezuela hasn't attacked us back yet.

> We're lucky Venezuela hasn't attacked us back yet.

Do you actually think this is a possibility? How do you see that playing out?

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The point being, no money laundering was pointed out to the court, although I sure this happened to some scale. Binance works with the police, before and after the conviction, it's not a laundromat like some Russian cryptocurrency exchanges. But you are right the AML controls were weak, and CZ was convicted for this. KYC requirements arrived to Binance very late. But they were not convicted of fraud (like Sam Bankman…

Compare with TD bank, that laundered money for the cartels - AFAIK nobody is in prison.

Yeah, it does seem unfair. However, it's important to note that you must have these controls, and Binance didn't. The effectiveness of these controls is not the point (sadly).

This is a super, super low bar. One can meet the BSA requirements by sending every transaction to the regulators, but Binance didn't even do that.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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When Obama really increased the number of pardons, a lot of contemporary opinion writers said stuff along the lines of "this is a dangerous precedent and we're lucky that the pardons are fairly popular and sane." Now we're seeing unpopular, not sane pardons. When democratic norms erode like pardons becoming more acceptable, it's like laying tinder and kindling for a fire. You still need a fire; a bad actor who is wil…

I don't buy it. A president that will literally direct his AG in public to prosecute his political enemies is simply not bound by norms, period. To pretend that he'd never have pardoned Zhao but for Obama's "increased number of pardons" is, to be blunt, ridiculous on its face. And in context, you're doing exactly what I mocked above, tut tutting about civil behavior and norms and The Discourse while the system burns…

> And in context, you're doing exactly what I mocked above, tut tutting about civil behavior and norms and The Discourse while the system burns down around you.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do then. I agree Trump is bad. Am I supposed to just say that 3 times and click my heels and then he'll go away?

These are observations designed around trying to make sure, once Trump is gone, that we don't get another Trump. I can't change the current President and this constant purity testing about hating Trump changes nothing.

The reason Trump will have to blatantly violate the Constitution if he tries to run again is because the country was so spooked after FDR's third term that it limited Presidential terms. One could have made the same argument then, the only reason FDR ran a 3rd term is because he's FDR and a different person wouldn't do that. But that amendment is why there's a bright line around a 3rd term now.

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The U.S. is running an outdated installation of democracy. The French approach of just rebooting and reinstalling the entire thing seems like a good idea at this point. Except the populace is already badly split into warring camps.

Heh, a balkanized USA, or one with different warlords like Afghanistan, would be interesting to see... "In this region, I'm the ruler, and here we believe in TERF!".

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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> Here on HN bothsidesism is a shibboleth that denotes "I'm a Serious Commenter and not a Partisan Hack". HN users don't necessarily do that because they want to. They might do it as a pre-emptive defense mechanism against the brigades of de-facto censors that roam the site. Moderation via populism is an anti-feature on its face, but Hacker News has the worst possible version of that sort of feature by making downvot…

The fact that this arguable, but clearly reasoned and expressed comment is now deep gray kinda puts an exclamation point on the argument, I'd say. (Honestly I think the moderation paradigm at HN has some bad externalities too, but really this isn't a solvable problem in the general case and nowhere does it well. The showdead mechanism at least makes the censorship visible to those who know where to look.)

It does. And it's completely understandable why, from a game theory point of view.

The censors want Hacker News to keep its reputation as a place where you can have debates in good faith, while allowing their censorship powers to shape the conversation.

Pointing this behavior out upsets the calculus by warning their potential marks. So of course they want to strategically hide it.

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Bit like suggesting the controversy over bombing boats in the Caribbean is dumb because the U.S. has bombed ships before. The way it's happening is completely unprecedented and absurd.

Comparing extra judicial murders to tearing down part of a building is absurd, please get a grip.

Of course murder is worse. I didn't suggest otherwise. I was responding to the claim that "the White House controversy is dumb" because the building has been modified before. Flagrantly violating the law while blowing a half a billion dollars in transparent bribes on a vanity project while the government is shutdown is beyond outrageous. It's not "dumb" that it's a controversy. It would, in any other administration, be a slam-dunk impeachable offense.

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And we're ok with murdering dozens of people that might maybe have some kind of drugs on them? In peacetime? Without evidence? Outside of our own territory/water? We're lucky Venezuela hasn't attacked us back yet.

> We're lucky Venezuela hasn't attacked us back yet. Do you actually think this is a possibility? How do you see that playing out?

"Today's defensive action we have taken demonstrates the first step to discourage these unmarked foreign terrorist attacks against our civilians. It is our duty to protect our people, which we will continue to do against the rising numbers of offensive boats assaulting us."

I imagine sooner or later, they will stop our black ops boats from shooting people.

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Don't kid yourself, US political corruption pre-dates Trump. This is just bringing it to a new level.

I find comment such as yours rather pathetic, for reasons I can't quite put into words. It's like you want to make excuses for Trump but you're not really willing to actually commit to it. Political corruption was not invented by Trump. We know. But that's really not the point at all.

I don't understand this. Should only Trump be blamed? I think that's stupid. All presidents before him were just as corrupt as him, only Trump doesn't care how people think of him, so he's not very sublte, like the other presidents. In that way I think Trump is actually revealing the corruption.

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I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

I know HN viscerally hates crypto, and yes Trump is embarrassingly corrupt, but the charges against CZ were a greater wrong than whatever quid pro quo happened in the pardon. This is the most embarrassing part of all of it. The US is ping ponging between two very different ways of misusing state power. CZ was charged with violating a highly technical US securities law that is not common to most countries despite not…

> his employees (also non-US and under no affirmative obligation to learn the laws of every country in the world just because they run a website)

Employees of financial businesses are absolutely obligated to learn the laws of every country where they provide services.

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