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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by bean469 »

discomrobertul8 wrote: post #889
mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

> Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. WatchOS 26 has rendered my Apple Watch almost useless. It's gone from lasting a whole day including 2 cycling 'workouts' for my commute and the occasional lunch time run (or gym session before work) to now being at 40% battery by the time I make my mid-morning coffee and dead before I get home. I don't use most of the 'smart' features anyway - I'm mostl…

> I don't use most of the 'smart' features anyway - I'm mostly using the fitness features - so I'll probably switch to a Garmin at some point.

If that's your use case, I can absolutely recommend getting one. I have a Forerunner 745 and it works great for workouts alongside some smart functions like NFC payments, quick-replies to texts, etc. The battery lasts for days as well, which you can't really beat.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by RataNova »

mumber_typhoon wrote: post #44

The M5 MacBook Pro still gets the Broadcom WiFi chip but the M5 iPad Pros get the N1 and C1X (Sweet). All in all, apple is doing some incredible things with hardware. Software teams at apple really need to get their act together. The M1 itself is so powerful that nobody really needs to upgrade that for most things most people do on their computers. Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same task…

And it kind of defeats the purpose of having such powerful hardware if the OS isn't keeping up (or worse, actively throttling older devices)

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by RataNova »

gcr wrote: post #165

So how many hardware systems does Apple silicon have for doing matrix multiplies now? 1. CPU, via SIMD/NEON instructions (just dot products) 2. CPU, via AMX coprocessor (entire matrix multiplies, M1-M3) 3. CPU, via SME (M4) 4. GPU, via Metal (compute shaders + simdgroup-matrix + mps matrix kernels) 4. Neural Engine via CoreML (advisory) Apple also appears to be adding a “Neural Accelerator” to each core on the M5?

Apple's clearly betting big on on-device AI workflows becoming the norm

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by neobrain »

mrkeen wrote: post #231
bfrog wrote: post #204

The big win would be a linux capable device. I don't have any interest in mac os x but the apple m parts always seem amazing. In theory this would be where qualcomm would come in and provide something but in practice they seem to be stuck in qualcomm land where only lawyers matter and actual users and developers can get stuffed.

I have a pretty good time on Asahi Fedora (macbook air M1). It supposedly also supports M2 but no higher. And it's a PITA to install (needs to be started within macosx, using scripts, with the partitions already in a good state)

> And it's a PITA to install

Curiously I found it a breeze since it didn't require digging out a flashable boot medium and pointing your BIOS to it. Calling a script from your normal desktop environment and having it automatically boot into the installer was really nice.

> with the partitions already in a good state)

What's this about? The script takes care of resizing the macOS partitions and creating new ones for Linux.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by [deleted] »

nblgbg wrote: post #221

32GB is the maximum memory configuration for the 14-inch laptop, which isn’t sufficient for running local LLMs. I think a Mac Studio or Mac Mini with higher memory would be more useful.

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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by neobrain »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #266
mrkeen wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a pretty good time on Asahi Fedora (macbook air M1). It supposedly also supports M2 but no higher. And it's a PITA to install (needs to be started within macosx, using scripts, with the partitions already in a good state)

How's Thunderbolt and display port alt mode?

Actively in progress, with related patches submitted to the kernel mailing list as recently as 3 days ago.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by RataNova »

hannesfur wrote: post #167

It’s unfortunate that this announcement is still unspecific about what they improved in the Neural Engine. Since all we know about the Neural Engine comes from Apple papers or reverse engineering efforts ( https://github.com/hollance/neural-engine ), it’s plausible that they addressed some quirks to enable better transformer performance. They have written quite interesting papers on transformers on the Neural Engine:…

No matter how fast your Neural Engine is, it's not much help if you're constantly juggling memory just to run a model

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by lagadu »

rootusrootus wrote: post #634
gigatexal wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing. My M3Max is going to look like a paper-weight very soon. And that's fine by me. When I get an M6 or M7Max to replace it it'll be amazing.

I was thinking similar thoughts about my M2 Max MBP. I look at the newer chips and wonder at what point will (or has it happened already) will the base M chip outperform my M2 Max? I'll probably hold onto it a while anyway -- I think it will be a while before I find 96GB limiting or the CPU slow enough for my purposes, but I'd still like to know how things are progressing.

Base M4 was already slightly outperforming the M2 Max in CPU. GPU-wise it's nowhere near close.
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