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Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by forgotoldacc »

yalogin wrote: post #722

Actually it’s much more sinister. It’s another way to force companies to kiss the ring. The government apparently can grant exceptions if they deem it’s in the good of the country. > The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines…

I very much expect companies to make 10 million dollar "campaign donations" to avoid the visa processing fees. Impossible for small companies to afford, but if you have 1000+ H1Bs in your company, it's a bargain.

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Post by ozim »

roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

Example of Poland and guys that Sam.A. Gave shout out.

Their talents would be simply wasted in Poland. There simply is not enough capital and academic resources are not going to best people but to ones gaming the system.

I bet a lot of talented people move to US because they would have to fight uphill battles in their home countries with lack of funding, nepotism, corruption, caste systems you name it.

So I don’t think it would make much difference for the countries if they don’t have society set in ways to benefit from those talents.

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Post by r_singh »

yalogin wrote: post #722

Actually it’s much more sinister. It’s another way to force companies to kiss the ring. The government apparently can grant exceptions if they deem it’s in the good of the country. > The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines…

This is after increasing the repatriation tax that H1-B workers pay on the sum they’re sending home for Indians only in the One Big Beautiful bill so it’d be effectively taxing both ways

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg98erzl8eo

Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by breitling »

afavour wrote: post #423

Putting all else aside: if you’re an H1B holder currently outside the US you must return within 24 hours or you’re on the hook for $100k: https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3l... Unfathomably cruel.

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Re: Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

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Post by password54321 »

givemeethekeys wrote: post #16

It hasn't happened yet. All the big money in America says that it will either never happen or won't last longer than a few weeks.

The cat is out of the bag. Either tension is going to keep rising on their country turning into an all you can eat buffet or something is going to change fast. This is not nothing.

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Post by irusensei »

herval wrote: post #558
osnium123 wrote: post #511

Won’t this mean that companies will move jobs to India, China or even Canada?

Brazil and Canada will absorb a lot of big tech headcount. Google et al are already moving lots of headcount to both countries. This will accelerate it, even if it’s struck down

Maybe Canada but Brazil doesn't have political and economic stability for this.

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Post by breitling »

ericmcer wrote: post #88
cogman10 wrote: post #36

IMO, the fee is the wrong thing that needs adjusting. It's the salary that should be adjusted. The minimum salary for an H1B should be $200k. It's something like 50k right now which is ridiculous especially with all the restrictions an applicant is under. It both suppresses wages and abuses the worker.

Is it too complex to just look at the companies taxes and be like... "Hey you are paying H1B workers 25% less than their peers. You get hit with a fine". If you couldn't undercut H1B salaries there is little incentive to use them except for their desired purpose (you can't find any local workers).

What if they're bringing the average salary down for everyone else because they can, thanks to h1b?

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Post by Salgat »

jpadkins wrote: post #123
roughly wrote: post #85

I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…

The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…

I imagine for the "best of the best" making $500k+ annually, this is just the cost of business and they're not going anywhere, while for the h1b workers making closer to $100k annually, this is a show stopper.

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Post by Salgat »

abfan1127 wrote: post #91
frogblast wrote: post #80

IMO the problem is that H1B employees are stuck at the employer for the duration of their green card process, and so end up both paid lower and unable to escape abuse. I think a very high application fee is actually part of a good solution, but is useless by itself. A flawed proposal: * Dispense with the 'need to search for a qualified American' which just complicates the process without achieving the stated goal, an…

who in their right mind would shell out 100k + relocation and not require some level of commitment?

A company paying half a million annually to ensure this employee is retained. It's not meant for joe sixpack making $100k/yr as an underpaid consultant.

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Post by harimau777 »

fabian2k wrote: post #179
fair_enough wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One man's rising gas prices are another man's oil industry boom. The H1B process is unfair to engineers because it drives down their compensation in a way that doesn't affect nurses or welders. If immigration were completely irrespective of profession and based solely around whether the imported laborers get paid enough to contribute more than they receive in taxes/public services, nobody would have any standing to c…

Software developer salaries are still extremely high in the US. So I would doubt that this has had a huge effect.

I'm not sure they actually are extremely high. It's just that most other salaries have fallen below what we'd normally consider middle class.

Stated another way, the things that software engineers can do with their wealth generally seem like normal middle class things. They can own a home but they can't afford a yacht. They can take nice vacations but they aren't part of the jet set. They can start businesses but generally not in capital intensive areas like resource extraction or heavy industry.

I'd say that software engineers, at least the higher paid ones, are probably on the higher side of middle class; but they are still solidly middle class.

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