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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hi, update here (this is Christina, Hack Club cofounder): looks like Hack Club is staying on Slack. Thanks to all of you for the appreciation and support for Hack Club, and for listening to what we were going through. The support has been amazing. Hack Club has so many cool teenagers coding awesome projects, making friends and solving problems together, and it's great to see so many people championing them. We are gl…

Thanks for keeping us posted, Christina!

Definitely like to judge folks based on how they fix (systemically!) problems. That said, did any kids in the club voice concerns about staying with an organization which had such a [potentially] severe incident?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hi everyone — Denise Dresser here, CEO of Slack. As Rob shared, this was our mistake. An oversight in our billing process caused the issue, and I’m truly sorry for the concern it created. As soon as our team learned about it, we corrected it and restored Hack Club’s nonprofit pricing. Christina - we have reached out directly and are committed to working with Hack Club to ensure your workspace remains fully accessible…

FWIW, in case you are not familiar with this forum: a 2700 point story is kind of a big deal, on par with the announcement of GPT-5 (only ~2k points).

The damage to your brand is immense.

It may be prudent to consider a wider, more serious, more comprehensive public response.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

Hi Rob, I'm Ian, CEO at Mattermost. Apologies for repeating the question from jrflowers, but I couldn't resist: >Out of curiosity, will you be facilitating them exporting their chat history? Mattermost is self-hosted and enables full data control. There's some organizations that want to move to Mattermost for various reasons. It's important for them to bring along their data. Wondering what your opinion might be?

What a weird attempt at injecting your product marketing.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Slack just publicly apologized for this and said it was a mistake and they will be returning hack club to the previously agreed upon plan. Hack club staff are currently discussing whether or not to go ahead with the migration to mattermost anyways. (- a hack club member)

I think it would be silly to not proceed with the migration, although hopefully there's less stress to do it quickly. Slack has shown they can't be trusted.

I’m not sure they could have been trusted at any time, their inventives are not aligned with HackClub’s.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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I was cancelling my annual slack premium last month and had to click to acknowledge that some of my members are using the AI features and they will lose access to them. They then offered me a discount and if I refused there was another checkbox where I accepted that I was about to cause disruption for other staff. I was tempted to take the deal until that point, but I'm the only member of the organisation and I absol…

It's just incredible that billion dollar companies are copying the dark patterns from last decade's shadiest developers.

What's the difference? Ransomware gangs aren't evil, they just want to make easy money and don't care about morals. That is also the definition of a for-profit company.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Slack just publicly apologized for this and said it was a mistake and they will be returning hack club to the previously agreed upon plan. Hack club staff are currently discussing whether or not to go ahead with the migration to mattermost anyways. (- a hack club member)

Hack club was offered 5 years of Enterprise+ to make up for the situation, and has decided not to migrate at this time

And what will happen after these 5 years?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #176

Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

How many others get this treatment without the publicity, y'all still showed your colors. Enjoy your business practices.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hack club was offered 5 years of Enterprise+ to make up for the situation, and has decided not to migrate at this time

And what will happen after these 5 years?

Now they have 5 years to prepare for transfer instead of days

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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post #892

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi everyone — Denise Dresser here, CEO of Slack. As Rob shared, this was our mistake. An oversight in our billing process caused the issue, and I’m truly sorry for the concern it created. As soon as our team learned about it, we corrected it and restored Hack Club’s nonprofit pricing. Christina - we have reached out directly and are committed to working with Hack Club to ensure your workspace remains fully accessible…

FWIW, in case you are not familiar with this forum: a 2700 point story is kind of a big deal, on par with the announcement of GPT-5 (only ~2k points). The damage to your brand is immense . It may be prudent to consider a wider, more serious, more comprehensive public response.

To quantify what I mean by "immense", as a former developer advocacy leader at a large public company, I once modeled HN impact and would estimate this story to be equivalent to a low-to-mid 8 figure marketing spend.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Hi, I’m Christina, cofounder of Hack Club. We just announced this news to our community, and this post is from one of the teenagers in Hack Club. It’s an accurate description of what’s happened, and we’re grateful to them for posting. Slack changed the terms of a special deal we were given last year to charge us for staff and volunteers (not for every teenager coding), and we built programs around that special rate.…

Hey, I'm Rob, the CPO at Slack (for real tho, this is my 3rd time posting this so please don't flag :pray:). This was a mistake. We're fixing it. We appreciate you, Hack Club, along with all of you that are Slack users following along :heart:.

It wasn’t a mistake, your sales incentives led to this behavior and you got caught off guard by the negative publicity.

Here’s exactly what happened: A human account manager had to meet their 3rd quarter sales goal and sent the demand for more money. It’s less than two weeks from the end of the quarter, do you really think nobody on HN is in sales and also facing the same pressure?

This is such a transparent lie that I’m surprised you took the time to post it.

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