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Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by hn_acc1 »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #637
xandrius wrote: post #590

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Yep "vision" because they are trying to sell you glasses. /s But Meta's business is clearly getting more and more sweet data from its users. How anyone can not see past this being a surveillance tool for a vast amount of data is unbelievable to me.

the vision is not the glasses. the vision is a connected world. maybe this is not something that you understand, especially if you're in the US, as there it's common to move farther than the distance between Madrid to Budapest, as an example, but for a lot of people I know, like me, who live more than a 1000km from their childhood friends and 3/4 of the family, any innovation that helps us meet more often and do more…

More frequently connected to your friends, so more ads can be sold to you and them, and more data collected to sell to other advertisers / surveillance forces? Doesn't sound all the great to me..

If it was open source with zero tracking, I might consider it. As it is, HARD PASS.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by hn_acc1 »

xandrius wrote: post #592
askvictor wrote: post #435

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I think the backlash against Google Glass was counterproductive - the product was intentionally made to be obvious that someone was wearing it. But because of the backlash, companies that want to do this kind of tech now have to hide it, such as this.

Let's forget that Google, just like Facebook, is an evil corporation with its main line of product being the sale of personal information, with absolutely no regards, except for when some country manages to slap their wrist. So, it's quite a stretch to say "counterproductive", I'm for one very glad that happened. Sure, I love the tech and what really mind-blowing we could do with it (I was part of devs working with G…

This. I want LESS Meta in my life, not more.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by amalcon »

freedomben wrote: post #875
gdbsjjdn wrote: post #784

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Bone conduction headphones will give you the same audio experience with better battery life and usb-c charging. I think a lot of people don't want to "feed the beast" and reward Meta for their terrible impact on society.

My wife loves bone conduction, but to me it sounds terrible. Makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong or if my bones just suck

Do you have the same musical taste as your wife? I have a bone conduction headset that I use for cycling. Podcasts and ebooks sound fine, and some music is acceptable (a lot of classical, some pop and folk). Anything with bass just sounds like garbage though - don't bother with any hard rock, hip hop, or anything else with bass.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by staplers »

QuantumNoodle wrote: post #881

What implications does this have to recording conversation you have with others? I for example live in a state where both parties need to give consent.

  live in a state where both parties need to give consent
Meta donated a lot of money to the current administration. Confer what you will.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by asadotzler »

bko wrote: post #871
evilfred wrote: post #844

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All of those would keep on existing if Meta died today, so who cares? Are you saying we have to keep permitting Meta to help governments oppress people and enable teen suicides just in case we get another React? that is silly

> All of those would keep on existing if Meta died today, so who cares Try second order thinking or thinking into the future. This company that built much of the modern web and created trillions in value. It's like the communists that just nationalize companies and institutions after they come into power thinking that wealth is just something that spontaneously comes into existence and can be captured with no ill eff…

Or, Meta disappears and all the talent goes to other places where it does other neat things that we all benefit from. We aren't going to accept that Meta has some magic that makes bright kids do better work.

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Post by rezmason »

gdbsjjdn wrote: post #784
aacook wrote: post #99

It seems like there are a lot of negative comments about Meta's glasses which is surprising to me as a regular user. I bought these both in clear and sunglasses and I love them. I've recorded some of the most amazing videos of my baby with them. Listening to music is fantastic as it's different from regular headphones since you can still hear the world around you — I've even done a few longer bike rides with them and…

Bone conduction headphones will give you the same audio experience with better battery life and usb-c charging. I think a lot of people don't want to "feed the beast" and reward Meta for their terrible impact on society.

I think of bone conducting headphones as the most realistic foundation for augmented reality on the market. Hearing things without plugging your ears up, weighing you down or taking you out of your surroundings is underrated and underutilized. To match the weight of an Oculus Quest 3 on my head, I'd have to wear seventeen pairs of Shockz OpenMove. Compare the dread of a video ad over your eyes to the dread of an audio ad in your ears.

We really should have a broader conversation about the practical applications of this stuff.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by asadotzler »

zmmmmm wrote: post #173
neilv wrote: post #139

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But currently not very popular.

there are millions in the wild ... so maybe not super popular but it's above penetration of anything you would call a niche product

That's a pretty small fraction of the population.

There are about 50M foldables in use, probably 30X as many in use as the Meta Ray-Bans, and I see one of those every couple of years and the only pair of Meta Ray-Bans I've seen in the wild has been a blind friend who got the first generation early because of its accessibility capabilities.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by asadotzler »

boogieknite wrote: post #795
bloomingeek wrote: post #785

I heard an article on NPR, which the interviewed one said the world was now ready for this technology. He said he thinks the "glasshole" opinion of most people has most likely passed. I freely admit, the price and the attitude was what stopped me from getting a pair back then. Now I won't hesitate, although the in-lens display is fantastically intriguing, I'm wondering about safety concerns like: walking down the sid…

id be surprised if my opinion is a common one, but one thing i prefer in ar glasses over phones is that i can take it off put glasses on, do what i want to do, then take them off. more like a laptop or tablet (or my ps4 jfc) where there is just enough friction to keep it from being overly compulsive i wonder if any major ar product will embrace that people want to only wear glasses for tasks and want to take them off…

AR glasses, at their best in the medium term, will be closer to your smartwatch than your phone, and probably closer to your car's HUD than your smartwatch.

Re: Meta Ray-Ban Display

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Post by d3rockk »

Vinnl wrote: post #485
aacook wrote: post #99

It seems like there are a lot of negative comments about Meta's glasses which is surprising to me as a regular user. I bought these both in clear and sunglasses and I love them. I've recorded some of the most amazing videos of my baby with them. Listening to music is fantastic as it's different from regular headphones since you can still hear the world around you — I've even done a few longer bike rides with them and…

For me it's not so much about what those glasses could do for me if I were to wear them... It's what they do to me if someone else wears them.

Exactly. The real danger is how they turn every wearer into a walking surveillance camera, creating a permanent, searchable record of your life without your consent, simply by being near them.

This fundamentally rewrites the rules of social interaction, creating a panopticon where you have to assume you're always being recorded, forcing self-censorship and destroying the trust essential for any authentic relationship.

And because our antiquated consent laws and pathetic safeguards like a tiny indicator light are completely unprepared for this, you have no real way to opt out of their surveillance network.

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