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Post by hnuser123456 »

clw8 wrote: post #883
hnuser123456 wrote: post #870

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quote cited in TFA claims that the murderer was "one of them". Now, why would someone take out a prominent spokesperson for their own party? They wouldn't, because that's not something that people do to other people they agree with. But somehow, people interpret that remark to make sense? The remark only makes sense if "one of them" refers to the fact the shooter was a white male, and the reader believes all whit…

The governor of Utah used similar language: “For 33 hours, I was praying that if this had to happen here that it wouldn't be one of us — that somebody drove from another state, somebody came from another country… Sadly, that prayer was not answered the way I hoped for… But it did happen here, and it was one of us.”

I took issue with that statement too. He's the governor. He must be aware that out of the millions of citizens of his own state, some commit crime. I think he went too far in trying to affirm people who believe their entire state is free of violence.

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Post by suzdude »

amradio1989 wrote: post #777
suzdude wrote: post #741

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He showed a clip of the president. And he said: > We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it Which is factual. It does not make assertions about Mr. Robinson. It represents a factual observation that many of the "MAGA gang" are attempti…

Ah but you see theres the rub. It’s not factual. It’s almost all supposition. I don’t think he should be pulled from the air by the way. Let’s go line by line. > We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately -snip- Pretty loaded statement. Desperately? On what basis? The “fact” is that MAGA didn’t have the slightest fear the shooter was one of them. They all assumed he wasn’t bc it made the mos…

> Pretty loaded statement. Desperately? On what basis?

If you have watched any of the coverage, desperately is correct. Anecdotally, many conservatives on social media practically celebrated when the bullet cases were found with memes that could suggest the shooter was "left wing". How much coverage and how fast did that news spread?

> The “fact” is that MAGA didn’t have the slightest fear the shooter was one of them

MAGA is not a hive mind. You should not pretend that they are a unified entity. Many individuals did, because there has been more extremist right wing violence against moderate right wingers. Given the shooter was experienced with firearms, it certainly made things foggy.

> That shooter is 22. That’s a full blown adult.

Depends on who you ask. Car rental companies would disagree with you.

> Second, it implies the shooter was likely one of them which was highly improbable to all concerned

You clearly have not heard of Nick Fuentes.

> What political points Jimmy?

Now you're just making bad faith arguments. "We are under attack" is the political points they want to score. You don't have to be that clever to figure it out.

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Post by suzdude »

kimbernator wrote: post #825
suzdude wrote: post #749

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Soviet tanks, American bombs, British guns, French lives....

Surprised the French get the "lives" in this, given that the soviet union lost about 40 people for every french person while having a population only about 4.5x larger.

Prior poster used soviet tanks, so just continued with their language.

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Post by yongjik »

spl757 wrote: post #690
suzdude wrote: post #614

Mel Brooks had the right of it. Fascism and Authoritarianism is defeated by satire and mockery. The ideology is too outrageous to survive any such scrutiny. Why else would the administration be so afraid of a few jokes?

This is exactly what Gavin Newsom is doing. It holds a mirror up and forces the right to address the ridiculousness of how trump communicates.

TBF I don't think Trump supporters get the ridiculousness. If they could get it so easily from another politician repeating it, they wouldn't be supporting Trump in the first place.

What Gavin Newsom is doing is, I think, a bit more subtle. He's signaling to Democratic supporters "Here's a guy willing to mock and ridicule Trump," because the established Democrats were too afraid to even do that - which explains why in this age of Trump, Democrats' poll numbers are still in the gutter.

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Post by belter »

fhdkweig wrote: post #832
dada78641 wrote: post #667

It really is kind of incredible. I just saw the clip and there really is absolutely nothing there. This is not even 10% as poignant of what Jon Stewart would say in his day. He doesn't even say anything about Kirk himself, or even about the murder—he just talks about the reaction to it. I already thought it was very suspicious that Sinclair's official press release just talks about how the remarks were "inappropriate…

For those who want to see the full clip in context, he has a youtube channel (for now). The video in question is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHT7ICvMtlA (Sept 16, 2025) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk (Sept 15, 2025)

"The F.C.C. Threatened to Punish Kimmel ‘the Hard Way.’ ABC Made It Easy." - https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/arts/television/jimmy-kim...

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Post by slg »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #870
fhdkweig wrote: post #832

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those who want to see the full clip in context, he has a youtube channel (for now). The video in question is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHT7ICvMtlA (Sept 16, 2025) and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3YdxNSzTk (Sept 15, 2025)

The quote cited in TFA claims that the murderer was "one of them". Now, why would someone take out a prominent spokesperson for their own party? They wouldn't, because that's not something that people do to other people they agree with. But somehow, people interpret that remark to make sense? The remark only makes sense if "one of them" refers to the fact the shooter was a white male, and the reader believes all whit…

>Now, why would someone take out a prominent spokesperson for their own party? They wouldn't, because that's not something that people do to other people they agree with.

This is why I think the American government is doomed in its current construction. First past the post voting has conditioned people like you to believe that everything is binary. You describe a world with only two parties that can have no dissention in those parties and no possible disagreements among their members. Isn't it obvious how flawed that mindset is?

This country desperately needs more than two options to every issue, but our system is inadvertently designed to ensure that doesn't happen.

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Post by davesque »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #490

Comedian makes joke on television. Sensitive much? Not really the emotional intelligence and maturity one wants from an establishment running a country of 300 million people and all the problems that encapsulates. The US is in all kinds of trouble and, unfortunately, the rest of the world is going to get some of it on them.

All it took was for one psychopath to find his way into office. Who knew?

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Post by zeven7 »

hackeraccount wrote: post #872
zeven7 wrote: post #763

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Organizations are led by humans. > Stop criticizing large corporations as moral entities. They have no other incentives other than money. I want better for the world.

You want people to act out of something other then self interest? People like that are the one's who have caused the most trouble.

People who have refused to bend to power for the greater good are not the ones who have caused the most trouble.
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