For the few that find this acceptable (or even celebrate this), then they must also be able to say:
“If I say something that someone doesn’t like, then they are justified in killing me.”
And accept it.
Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah
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#892pragmatically, you can't kill an idea with bullets. terrorism does one thing only: it triggers retaliation. nihilistic accelerationists who want a war can use terror to provoke one. some of Charlie Kirk's last words: > ATTENDEE: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? > KIRK: Too many. [Applause] I don't think the shooter was trans. but I'm trans, and I don't see thi…
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You might be surprised to hear that "America" contains many people on all sides of every meaningful issue and debate.
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#896"On September 10, 2025, at approximately 12:24PM, Conservative political influencer Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at the Utah Valley University in Orem, UT. Mr. Kirk was speaking at the University as part of the American Comeback Tour. Multiple SLC I and III agents responded immediately. The suspect fired one shot from an elevated position on a rooftop in an adjacent building on the campus and surveillance video shows the suspect, jumping off and fleeing the area on foot. ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus. The location of the firearm appears to match the suspects route of travel. The spent cartridge was still chambered in addition to three unspent rounds at the top fed magazine. All cartridges have engraved wording on them, expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology. An emergency trace has been submitted an ATF SLC is working leads generated by the trace. The firearm and ammunition have been taken by the FBI for DNA analysis and fingerprint impressions. Upon completion of forensics, the firearm will be disassembled for additional importer information. Multiple people of interest having contacted or detained because of eyewitness testimony and review of video footage. The primary suspect is yet to be identified. ATF is assisting the investigation with multiple other federal, state, and local partners and the case is co-led by the FBI and Utah SBI."
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#897But we have to make an effort in the United States. We have to make an effort to understand, to get beyond, or go beyond these rather difficult times. My favorite poem, my -- my favorite poet was Aeschylus. And he once wrote: "Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, until, in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom through the awful grace of God." What we need in the Uni…
While I like that quote, i just went to lookup the speach and was sadden to learn you “sanitized” it. Taking out the phrase “vast majority of white people and vast majority of black people” That too says something about our times. Maybe a few things. From being unable to trust things without verifying, to people’s willingness to alter the truth to make a point, to how people fear discussing race and gender loud even…
It think it says something that you'd be willing to jump to conclusions. You "learned" it was sanitised and make a point about people willing to alter the truth, then you personally attach some meaning to it. You made up your own reality, when the word "[people]" literally indicates that the OP did change the quote. Instead of assuming malice, you could have also just asked why they changed it, or looked up why words would be in brackets, or give the OP the benefit of the doubt.
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#898pragmatically, you can't kill an idea with bullets. terrorism does one thing only: it triggers retaliation. nihilistic accelerationists who want a war can use terror to provoke one. some of Charlie Kirk's last words: > ATTENDEE: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years? > KIRK: Too many. [Applause] I don't think the shooter was trans. but I'm trans, and I don't see thi…
Assassinations, opposed to terrorism, can cause more positive? political change.
The effect would be subtle, but following Peter Turchin's theory of elite overproduction, assassinations of union elites after the civil war supposedly blunted the effects of the reconstruction.
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This post has more engagement than any other post on the front page. It seems hackernews has been overrun by a certain crowd whom this death seems newsworthy
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#900A sad day for America. Very few will like where this leads. I hope cooler heads prevail and pray for him and his family.
A bit of an exaggeration ? it's just a random rage baiter who baited the wrong person apparently. It won't be a blimp in American history