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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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> Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. This love for Apple seems to be a very US-American thing.

I dunno, I haven’t been to Europe. What do they favor, Linux? Sounds like paradise.

Europe is a Microsoft stronghold in almost all areas except some tiny tech focused startups with young founders,

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Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

> For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - Creating a language (typescript) that took the front-end web community by storm. - Becoming one of the real adopters of "progressive web apps". Apple is actively hostile to them, because they would eat into the 30% cut they are making from the apps distributed via the app store; Google, once a champion, has grown kinda tepid, because it also gets a cut from apps dis…

> - Shipping a tremendously popular text editor, Visual Studio Code.

Which feels sluggish compared to how it used to be. They keep tacking on too much cruft to it. I used to call it a lightweight IDE, but now its just a bloated editor.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

How is Rider v. VS? This is the sort of question I don't trust AI with yet.

the debugger is a tiny bit nicer in VS, but otherwise Rider has much better ergonomics and features that are actually useful.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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The fact you still only got bothered by studio acquisitions show you don't even noticed the studio closures... MS fired thousands of gamedevs in the last few weeks, cancelled a lot of games, including games the execs liked to play the prototypes, cancelled publishing deals, and even closed entire studios, some of them literally successful that had just released profitable products.

In the profitable cases (and maybe just as open offer), why not just sell them back to their staff/former owner? There's no point to keep the IP of games that are shuttered. Maybe the offer was made and a bunch didn't take it?

Dunkey has a great overview of how Microsoft handles studios/IP: https://youtu.be/GWrcUh2GuPQ

For the last decade they acquire studios/IP’s, let them languish, then without warning strip them for parts. Make a successful game? Doesn’t matter, you’re all fired. Y’all want to make a game? Sure! We can even promote it! 12-18mo of no news after an announcement ah dang guys we were so hyped but we’re pulling the plug.

It is baffling how many studios they own and yet they have almost no exclusives/big cross platform hits developed for the Xbox this generation.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Lots of comments here remind me of the time GitHub was purchased by Microsoft. It would be the dead of GitHub. While in fact it got better: GitHub Actions (pretty neat CI system) happend under Microsoft. Free private repos happend under Microsoft. Now this time it could be different. But last time wasn't that bad imho.

Microsoft made the GitHub UI significantly worse by rewriting everything in React. It's now slow and bloated. Copying text from the file viewer is a nightmare. And never ever look at how GitHub Actions work under the hood, you will wish you never became a developer.

Search is very much FUBAR. I get nagged to register even though they know I have like 17 github accounts, because who does not? They missed the ball on that one. Sometimes I like to browse without any cookies on a separate browser for window shopping reasons. Leave me alone Microsoft.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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> Excel single-handedly redeems Microsoft from being a pure drain on human existence Debatable. Excel can't even open CSV files properly. You need to run the import wizard. But loads of people don't do this. They see a file on their desktop and double click it. Why can't double clicking a CSV file just open the import wizard!? (Because they want people to share xlsx files as a data format.)

I assume most Americans don't run into the CSV hell that other countries do. In my current country, whether CSVs open as a comma-separated or semi-colon seperated document depends on whether the OS is set to use a , or a . for decimal numbers. It's absolutely annoying.

Right but the import wizard can fix things. They just don't make the double-click go through the import wizard - and people use 'open' or double-click their files. LibreOffice Calc opens the import wizard when you open a csv and it's fine.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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>Microsoft’s CoreAI team is a new engineering group led by former Meta executive Jay Parikh. It includes Microsoft’s platform and tools division and Dev Div teams, with a focus on building an AI platform and tools for both Microsoft and its customers. This is so confusing. The "CoreAI" team is apparently doing everything except the core of AI, which is LLMs.

Which is more confusing when you consider the trove of data GitHub hosts for coding LLMs.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

#898

GitHub has been a growing disappointment for quite a while. 1. GitHub itself isn't opensource despite being the opensource forge. 2. Microsoft (of all companies) acquired it. 3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom. 4. GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc). 5. GitHub striking down repositories and user accounts (the Russian developer, yt-dlp, etc). 6. LL…

> 3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom.

Zed was born as a result, which is drastically better. Zed tried to go into the AI thing, then made it possible to use it without any AI stuff, which is good.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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GitHub has been a growing disappointment for quite a while. 1. GitHub itself isn't opensource despite being the opensource forge. 2. Microsoft (of all companies) acquired it. 3. Microsoft pushes VSCode and kills GitHub's Atom. 4. GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc). 5. GitHub striking down repositories and user accounts (the Russian developer, yt-dlp, etc). 6. LL…

> GitHub employees are quite political (master branch rename, ICE protest resignations, etc). ah ok so the politics of power aren't of interest to you > LLMs trained on public and private code without consent or opting in. ah ok so the politics of power ARE of interest to you what's goin on here man

You're comparing politics regarding actual political events and private code being scraped without opt-in or permission being requested, what is going on here indeed man.
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