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We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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I am not saying you are wrong but from what I understood that alcoholism and depression were quite prevalent in those times. Do you have sources for what you are saying?

People are seriously fucking delusional. The wonderful life of a coal miner in 1890 lol. It is just a completely insane idea.

My dad grew up in a village in Bangladesh with no electricity, no telephones, little modern medicine. He remembers his childhood as a happy one, even though one in every four kids died before age 5. He’s materially better off in every way here in the U.S. But as to the specific point being discussed here, he had a richer social life with more and more frequent contact with friends and family than most americans I know.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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The electricity in both things are real, and it's unkind to twist the words of the person you responded to that way. They specifically mentioned emotions, not electricity. An AI will be completely unaffected by anything said to it.

I think it's a legitimate question, because ultimately all brain activity is electrical and chemical signals. To say that some electrical signal objectively is or is not an emotion implies that there is some objective rule for deciding this -- but I'm not aware of any such rule, only longstanding conventions.

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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Coal miners in 1890s appalachia had healthier and more active social lives than american white collar workers. This does not have anything to do with economics.

Economics drives longer working hours - don't American averages exceed Japan now?

Americans, and almost everyone else, work 33% less than they did in 1900: https://ourworldindata.org/working-more-than-ever

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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I think it's fine. People who don't appreciate their own species for its own sake get what they want and those of us who actually want to socialize can be more intentional and direct about it.

I agree in a philosophical sense, but if we lose a lot of the workforce to machine opiate we will struggle unless we also eliminate social welfare programs.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

#896

I think it's fine. People who don't appreciate their own species for its own sake get what they want and those of us who actually want to socialize can be more intentional and direct about it.

I agree in a philosophical sense, but if we lose a lot of the workforce to machine opiate we will struggle unless we also eliminate social welfare programs.

Social welfare was crushing the workforce to begin with. That has never been a good idea.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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It’s not about fasting or even cardio, it’s about caloric restriction. Fasting reduces the calories you eat, and cardio increases the calories you burn.

Fasting also leads to breaking down fat via lipolysis during ketogenesis. Burning calories via exercise, including cardio, primarily stops you from _gaining_ weight. So yes of course at the end of the day it is about calorie restriction, but fasting helps force your body into a state where it needs to break down stored calories -- ie. fat tissue.

You’re not wrong about breaking down fat via lipolysis but you’re wrong about the overall picture. Also, not sure what you mean by cardio stopping you from gaining weight. Cardio burns calories and you need to burn calories to lose fat.

Anyways, fasting isn’t a body hack like some people think. Just look at this article by Harvard health. At best the benefit is modest:

“intermittent fasting has a similar or even modest benefit over traditional calorie-restriction dieting for weight loss”

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/can-intermitt...

One reason is because the body regulates which sources of energy it uses, and will actually compensate for using too much of one energy source. For example, you might burn more fat during intermittent fasting because that’s what’s available at the time, but when you’re not fasting your body will actually burn less fat to compensate.

This is also why doing fasted cardio isn’t a hack. You’ll just burn less fat later and it’ll mostly be a wash.

Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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I'm a 44 yo Xenial, not too old, not young. That is, I'm part of the "walkman generation" . It surprises me how people are less and less open to socialize, to the point that some even see you with disgust if you DARE to interrupt them from.their mobile phone trance. Society nowadays is pretty ugly. Younger generations seem very isolationist to me.

I'm sure this is more a reflection on me but I try to go out to meet strangers at meetups and I find I quite often don't like the people. You might get the random ultra woke person who makes it impossible for others to have a conversation because they're just waiting to be triggered by anything anyone else says and find a way to spin every comment into an offence. If anyone brings up politics then the meetup is over,…

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Re: We may not like what we become if A.I. solves loneliness

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The thing is, it is really difficult to find the kind of social circle that fits you.. I have had more interesting and deeper conversations with chatGPT than with people. Somehow chatGPT is more capable of expressing thoughts about existence, love, pain, and what it means to be than most if not all humans I have had the chance of talking to. Conversations with people pale in comparison.

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I find this comment .. confusing. Ignoring the unwarranted insult, I think you’ve misunderstood what I expressed.

Finding your people in a world that is so connected and yet so distant is … difficult to say the least.

I was most comfortable in grad school, with other grad students, professors and people of that nature. Unfortunately I have trouble finding that kind of people again as a working adult.

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