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Supreme Court's ruling practically wipes out free speech for sex writing online

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Yes, but since when do we allow the majority to dictate what healthcare options are available? The mode for treating trans kids is puberty blockers until they’re 18 and then they can choose their own treatment - but that pathway is being blocked by more and more laws and fear mongering about kids being transitioned against their will

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It is legal in all 50 rates for teenage girls to get breast augmentation surgery in order to better match gender expectations, but god forbid they want to remove them.

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Many? You mean less than 1%[1]? > Overall, 33% underwent transmasculine procedures and 67% transfemenine procedures. The prevalence of regret among patients undergoing transmasculine and transfemenine surgeries was That's less than the regret rate for life saving surgeries lol [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8099405/

Better ban hip replacements ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

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Why is the comment downvoted so much? Am GenX.

Not having access to the internet during childhood 30-40 years ago is very different than not having access to the internet as a child now. I think most people are taking your description of your experience being positive as a recommendation - one that is very unrealistic in modern times.

I’m describing a utopian ideal yes.

I still think the open internet is not a place for children today. People forget the surveillance aspect, not to mention the other dozen negative aspects.

It’s easy enough to download things for their local use.

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Why is it everyone else's responsibility to keep it out of the hands of 10 year olds by being 24/7 surveilled by the government, instead of the parents' responsibility to regulate internet access for their 10-year old? Not that gay erotica seems that harmful, even for a 10 year old. They probably don't seek it out as much as you thing they do. If they do, it is probably a beneficial step in their development given wh…

Because it takes a village. Because I am my brother's keeper. Because as a society we have a responsibility to help and protect one another.

The thought of being complicit in a society that guards abused children of fundamentalist christians against apostasy and thoughtcrime fills me with despair and dread.

If that's the society we are heading towards, count me out. I shall sit on my hands to the best of my ability.

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I think American Christians should do neither. Restricting a child's access to information in order to indoctrinate them into a set of beliefs unquestioningly is a form of child abuse. Various forms of psychological and physical abuse are extremely prevalent in American Christian parenting practices, and it's something as a society we should not tolerate.

Exposing children to propaganda that they are ill equipped to deal with is also child abuse. Just because someone can argue better than you can does not mean they are right. Climate change deniers can be very convincing if you don't understand physics.

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There was a NYT article a couple weeks ago about Chinese morality police doing mass arrests of erotica authors, https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/28/world/asia/china-boys-lov... ( "Chinese Police Detain Dozens of Writers Over Gay Erotic Online Novels" ) [note article contains large images of erotica novel covers] But you'd *expect* that of the PRC; the US, wow, has it ever fallen fast and fallen hard.

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That's a decision for the parents of that kid to make, not the government.

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Its also to little, to late- the smut is in the LLMs now and they can generate whatever the user wants - locally. So good luck censoring that.

Easy, now every site hosting LLMs weights requires age verification.

Painstakingly hand drawing 10,000 individual dongs and 10,000 things that look like but aren't dongs so I can train my own local-only model

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All these ID check laws are out of hand. Parents are expecting the government, and random websites, to raise their kids. Why would anyone trust some random blog with their ID? If these laws move forward (and I don’t think they should), there needs to be a way to authenticate as over 18 without sending picture of your ID off to random 3rd parties, or giving actual personal details. I don’t want to give this data, and…

The actual point of these laws isn't to stop minors from viewing the material, it's to stop sites from hosting the material entirely. They're using "protect the kids from obscene content" as a wedge to get popular support. Acting like some technical solution to make authenticating as an adult more user-friendly would make the politicians who want this implemented happy is disingenuous. Let's take a look at how Tennes…

7 years is crazy. I can't think of a single plausible justification for that that isn't dramaticallly expanding the purported scope of the law

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Asking id from the person watching porn has nothing to do with making porn illegal. If you think it is harmful to the people doing the porn, then it should be illegal. If not, asking for id is super useless. Also if watching porn is bad for the person’s spouse then they shouldn’t do it, which has nothing to do with asking for id

But isn't harm minimization a thing? That's something we practice in other domains, like providing clean needles to drug addicts. After all, if drug use is harmful to the people doing drugs, then it should be illegal. So; making things illegal often doesn't solve the problem. Making it harder to consume porn reduces consumption which reduces the amount of money being funneled into the industry, which might be benefic…

I agree but, then they can go after people producing porn, not people that watch it.

This is the same as going after the drug addicts.

This feels like going after the people on the more vulnerable side because it is easy. Which signals it is more about forcing people to not do something instead of trying to genuinely help them.

But going after people producing porn is a no no because they have money and they are organised.

Also imo the intention of people trying implement things like this is just about surveillance and has absolutely nothing to do with protecting the families, children, addicts etc. etc.

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On a sociological level: good. I personally believe that easy-access porn has been detrimental to society.

It really hasn’t and there’s absolutely no evidence to support this at all

You really can't see any way in which it could contribute?
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