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There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.
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I think the goal hear is to "both sides" the concept of insurrection to neuter the January 6th criticism of his administration. The protesters here, at least in some cases, are doing their protests explicitly to prevent the government from enforcing laws that the protestors don't like.
Instead it makes Jan 6th look worse as Congress asked for national guard and Trump did nothing. Newsom condemned the use of military and Trump did it anyway. >explicitly to prevent the government from enforcing laws that the protestors don't like. 100+ policemen died on Jan 6th. What's the body count here?
If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans
I saw them, worked with them, so don't tell me they all criminals or lazy. "Legal" or "illegal" is just a label we put on the same person, but person doesn't change.
It's non-working lazy criminals we want to push against. Oftentimes those who could get their *ss off the couch and emigrate are the most active.
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Spreads out police resources for one. Protesters outnumber police. Every cop pulled away from the protest to respond to a fire, looting incident, or whatever can translate directly to lives saved / protesters not arrested etc. Also makes certain goals more achievable. I read a crimethinc article about the george floyd protests and it suggested that the looting drew the cops away from the barricade at the police stati…
> protesters not arrested We should be clear, protesting is not illegal. It's protected first amendment speech. There is activity at protests that is illegal, and should be punished, but that's not protesting and lumping them together puts a chilling effect on.
Everyone says this but no one means it. Governments just declare an area offlimits, or they declare a curfew or one of hundreds of ways they use to make protesters illegal. Ultimately, protests are only legal inside a small cube where no one can see, and thus the protesters have no effect.
Protesting is illegal. People should protest anyway because it is stupid that protesting is illegal.
any ex-marines here? how would they actually take to the orders that everyone's worried about? "no questions asked"?
EDIT: That said, I concur with my sibling comment that decisions are very much pushed down to the NCO/SNCO on the ground, and I expect that those young Sergeants might actually have more sense and restraint than the O-5s and O-6s (battalion and regiment commanders). Also, military demographics are changing....I bet (but can't confirm with hard data right now) that there is a substantial growth in Hispanics in the combat arms compared to ~30 years ago. I had a female Corporal working for me once who's hometown was Sinaloa (yes, cartel Sinaloa). I think even normally "eager to engage the enemy" Marines will be more restrained about escalating to violence against their own demographics.
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Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.
>I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis Increasing immigration is a good way to revitalize a stagnant economy. This is the great chasm between people's intuition of how national economies work and economists' understanding of how they work.
If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans
The Republican party is incentivized both to have illegal immigration, and to fight against illegal immigration. They act accordingly to those incentives.
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Elon has a working relationship with the Israelis. If any of what you said is even remotely true, then why would Musk betray the Mossad to expose a sitting president? Why can't Trump go to Bibi and make him admit to fielding a (now dead) operative and exonerate the case entirely? That makes no sense. If you want to manufacture a wholesale lie like this, at least make it believable. I know it's hard to grapple with th…
Well he didn't expose him did he? You fell into a trap of cognitive dissonance.
What Musk said was, "[Trump] is in the Epstein files." While this is already well known, what we don't know and what wasn't said was to what _degree_ Trump is in them. Musk is well-known for falsely accusing people he's upset with of being a pedo. Yet he didn't go that far this time. If Trump was in any compromising situation in the Epstein files we would have known about it already. The Democrats and intelligence community would not have needed the fake dossier, fake hooker allegations, Russian collosion hoax, or any of their other tricks.
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> If illegal immigration is such a problem, It isn't remotely the problem or even in the same galaxy as needing this type of response. The cause for the actions is racism. The protests are due to calling out racism and removing due process. Anything else is denial or sophistry, that's the simple truth.
So all counties with strong border policies are racist? That’s preposterous. Australia has some of the strictest border policies (drastically more strict than us). Do you believe they’re just racist policies too?
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They want a reason to remove the current Californian government, as well as manufacturing a reason to enact emergency powers which can 'help' Trump push for a third term. They have been discussing this since before the election.
Trump is hardly a bastion of health, you think he'll still be around when he's 82?