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Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by cubefox »

bombcar wrote: post #508
jandrese wrote: post #330

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IMHO skeuomorphic design had a few wins, but also plenty of losses. Sometimes the real world interface is just not as intuitive as it should have been. But I'm 100% behind you on "make buttons look like buttons" and "don't hide functionality behind arbitrary gestures that you never tell the user". UI designers may hate menus these days, but they were so good for letting a user browse through looking for the thing the…

This is exactly the problem with Siri - if it was nothing but a vocal command line that I had to memorize exactly how to talk to it, and I could find a list of commands to learn, it'd be 1000x better.

This is similar to WolframAlpha. Theoretically, it can do countless different things, but you wouldn't know about them just from looking at the empty text box. The difference to something like ChatGPT is that it can interpret arbitrary commands, even if it can't properly execute them.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by Traubenfuchs »

Change for the sake of change. Because otherwise, there would be no news and we would stay at: "things are pretty good, besides the bad ui and ux in some parts".

Absolutely nothing interesting or innovative on the horizon, besides AI snake oil that they apparently just can't get right...

End stage big tech.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

sjs382 wrote: post #893

This could be a GREAT design if it implemented head/eye tracking to create a true layered/3d feeling with depth. That's something that would have been VERY doable for them on the iPhone/iPad, too.

Probably not possible without a major hit to battery life to keep Face ID/front camera on persistently. I agree it would be insanely cool though. Someone actually put together a demo (in 2019!) where the UI chrome correctly reflects the device’s orientation relative to the ambient light here: https://youtu.be/TIUMgiQ7rQs

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by jitl »

designerarvid wrote: post #773

As a user centered designer I naturally agree with most criticism shared here. Not the direction I would have wished for. Trying to understand where this is coming from, I guess two sources: 1. It's a fashion update to give GenZ and younger something they haven't seen before. They are too young to remember Windows Vista, and are the most important future target group that spends 12+ hrs / day on their iPhone. Also it…

Browser/webview have had iOS 7+ style blur for a while now, but won’t have an answer to emulating Liquid Glass shaders for a while.

EDIT: although perhaps this will allow emulation in webview if performance isn’t abysmal https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/SVG/Reference/E...

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Post by barrell »

adastra22 wrote: post #767
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Apple Maps is actually great now.

Depends on your region. It is fantastic in Cupertino. It is literally unusable in Japan or Taiwan. Literally--it will fail to get directions or even find your destination (typing in English or the local language).

I find the search pretty poor on Apple Maps, but I’ve traveled the world using only Apple Maps and I’ve gotten around fine in quite remote areas.

The only reason I ever use google maps is to search somewhere and copy paste the address into Apple Maps.

Can’t speak towards Japan or Taiwan specifically but it’s been fine in extremely rural Africa, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Bosnia, Australia, etc. Much better than Google Maps in most of Western Europe and America these days.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by noisy_boy »

leakycap wrote: post #337
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Same. I was kind of slowly preparing myself that I might be switching to android and it seems this might be the final straw. Will wait until Sept to see how new iphone and google pixels will look like but most likely I will do the transition (even though been developing for iOS for more than 10 years.

I've tried to escape the walled garden to Android before, and I've given up. No matter which company's phone or what version of Android, it didn't work well as a phone, alarm, and reliable device that I use for stuff like my home security. Things broke on Android like clockwork, and the clock didn't work. The latest Google pixel devices are specifically blocked from using Wyze devices right now due to a typo in the p…

They are both broken in their own ways. However, on one of those, I have some amount of flexibility/freedom to put in my own fixes/hacks/solutions to make it work. I will pick the additional headache that flexibility brings over being in a straight jacket everytime.

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Post by adastra22 »

debo_ wrote: post #884
adastra22 wrote: post #766

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That screenshot is utterly unreadable. It makes my eyes hurt. For the young people out there, I'm not exaggerating or being metaphorical. Literally pain in my eyes as they try (and fail) to focus on the appropriate UI elements. I was going to upgrade to an iPhone 16 this week. I might be checking out Google or Samsung devices instead.

You might want to look at the new design language that Android is going for: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43975352

Ugly and a definite regression. But at least my eyes don’t hurt.

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Post by folmar »

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Reduce Transparency in Accessibility settings removes the glass effect, but I believe has been updated to be closer to the translucent effects in current iOS.

I find the "reduce motion" toggle to be a more pleasant experience on iOS as well.

Also this is way better compared to Android, where "remove animations" make apps feel like a dumpster fire, many of them lose parts of UI that were animated instead of showing them statically, feedback for touching gets often lost, things are waiting for animation so you are still stuck waiting a second or two for nothing, etc.

Re: Apple introduces a universal design across platforms

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Post by benplumley »

stalco wrote: post #397

I installed it. I really wanted to love it but it’s bad. It’s very busy and the proportions in the Settings app are awful. It’s on the “cozy” side of things (as opposed to “compact”). This means you see less options at one time on the screen and have to scroll more around the OS to get where you need to. As for accessibility… It’s hell. Have a look: https://imgur.com/a/6ZTCStC

Is the WiFi enabled, or does it just have a blue icon behind it?
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