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A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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Aren't backup cameras mandated in the US now? How do you have a background camera with no screen? Edit I see the issue. The actual title say no touch screen. The OP altered the title to just say screen for some unexplainable reason. Maybe this title should be fixed?

Answer's in the article. There is a screen behind the wheel for the speedometer, odometer, etc. The backup cam displays there.

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Elon has proven to truly be the dumbest smart guy ever. He alienated Tesla’s core customers; tree hugging liberals, and anyone who cares about sustainability. The GOP nor their voters care and never will. I called this Tesla stock crash months ago; did not act on it though.

One interesting thing is that he seems completely unaware that he is the problem. Stepping back from DOGE to focus on Tesla again. He thinks that him getting closer to Tesla will help save the brand, when it's exactly his association with it that caused the damage in the first place. The best thing he could do for Tesla would be to step aside. > I called this Tesla stock crash months ago TSLA is currently up 5% MoM d…

I don't think stock prices matter as much to him (everybody knows there are lots of expectations baked in the price).

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

#893

The US is falling way behind in electric vehicles. If BYD could sell in the US, the US auto industry would be crushed.[1] What went wrong is that 1) Tesla never made a low-end vehicle, despite announcements, and 2) all the other US manufacturers treated electric as a premium product, resulting in the overpowered electric Hummer 2 and F-150 pickups with high price tags. The only US electric vehicle with comparable pri…

The US automakers lost the plot a long time ago, and have just been sucking out money without innovation or improvement since.

When California and the EPA tried to legislate lower emissions 9 years into the future, the US automakers sued to block saying it was impossible. Japanese automakers were already selling vehicles that met those standards.

When they badly, badly screw up, they just get bailed out with public funds and then go on to pay execs tens of millions of dollars a year and fat bonuses. Guaranteed profits no matter what made them lazy and uncompetitive.

They’re all dying

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

#894

Aren't backup cameras mandated in the US now? How do you have a background camera with no screen? Edit I see the issue. The actual title say no touch screen. The OP altered the title to just say screen for some unexplainable reason. Maybe this title should be fixed?

Answer's in the article. There is a screen behind the wheel for the speedometer, odometer, etc. The backup cam displays there.

Right, I edited my comment. The OP just posted a pretty misleading title saying there was no screen at all.

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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This is extremely refreshing. I think that it would be possible to make something like this in the US for under $15K even. Cars and trucks are so over-engineered and come with tons of low value options intended to drive up the price. For a case in point, consider that headlights that turn on and off automatically in response to darkness (or rain) are not a standard feature on many cars, yet they include a manual swit…

I'll do you one better, car headlights should never be off while the motor is running. Just like motorcycles since the 70s (maybe 80s?). No switch at all, ignition on, headlights on, period.

Canadian vehicles require this by law.

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

#896

The US is falling way behind in electric vehicles. If BYD could sell in the US, the US auto industry would be crushed.[1] What went wrong is that 1) Tesla never made a low-end vehicle, despite announcements, and 2) all the other US manufacturers treated electric as a premium product, resulting in the overpowered electric Hummer 2 and F-150 pickups with high price tags. The only US electric vehicle with comparable pri…

By 4) stealing patents and technology off of American companies

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#897
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Manufacturers must hit a level of CO2 emissions on average across their whole fleet. As such, Suzuki is choosing to discontinue the Jimny because of the tougher fleet average targets starting in 2025. Overall you’re right that it’s a bit of a fix; Mercedes ‘pools’ its emissions with other manufacturers/brands. It currently pools with Smart, but may also pool with Volvo/Polestar? [0] It’s such an obvious approach to ‘…

This is why its so important to be super careful with how you write regulation - because even if the intent was good, it's so hard to both anticipate unintended second- and third-order effects, and it's so difficult to update after you've pushed to production. Just like code, regulation isn't intrinsically valuable - it's a means to an end, and piling lots of poorly-written stuff on top of each other has disasterous…

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Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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China’s approach to funding BYD is meant to replace much of the capital it might raise in freer markets, providing subsidies, tax breaks, and preferential policies to offset limited access to liquid equity and debt markets. This support, totaling $10-12 billion from 2018-2022 plus in-kind benefits, mirrors the role of U.S. automakers’ $160-220 billion in public market raises and $50-100 billion in private capital, bu…

The lack of freer markets is itself a response to the biggest subsidy the Chinese government provides its manufacturers, the currency controls.

RMB is undervalued by ~10-30%, with latter being extreme estimates, pegged to usd with small floating band. It's minor advantage vs executing competent industrial policy that durably drives production costs down fraction vs competitors. Add 10-30% to PRC EV production costs and western (especially US) producers still nowhere near.

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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What went wrong is that the federal government didn't build or legislate a national charging infrastructure to match the scale of the interstate highway system. They could have strong-armed the states into it with a combination of funding the construction and the way they mandated the 21 drinking age: by threatening to withhold highway funds.

They definitely tried... $7.5 Billion worth. It's on pause now :-( https://www.govtech.com/transportation/federal-funding-for-e...

And how many stations did that yield?

Re: A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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You could buy an old Volkswagen bug (not the new models) for cheap. They are dead simple too with tons of parts available.

Depending on where you live you can almost build certain older cars from new parts. For the UK I believe you can get every single part of an Morris Mini either brand new or at least refurbished. For France you can probably built a Citroen 2CV for parts, including an EV version.

A friend is doing exactly that with a defender 130 . New galvanized frame, every panel new, new axles, new brakes, new transmission, transfer case and engine. New seats, new interior, new doors. Cool project.
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