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Post by lurk2 »

throwanem wrote: post #884
lurk2 wrote: post #882

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> "Most avid users," I believe I said. You seem to exclude yourself from the category, so it isn't surprising you should have a perspective other than that I seek to describe. I was an avid user and I read your post correctly the first time. Most users did not browse both platforms. Most avid users did not browse both platforms. > Or we could try to have a conversation about it, I suppose. I don’t see the point when…

> I don’t see the point [of trying to have a conversation] when you’ve already admitted that you do not feel inclined to provide any evidence... I would feel badly about that if you showed any interest in adhering to the higher standard you espouse, or indeed to any standard: you're an "avid user" now, but "I saw plenty of content from Tumblr in 2014 despite not actively using it," you said upthread just a little whi…

> you're an "avid user" now, but "I saw plenty of content from Tumblr in 2014 despite not actively using it," you said upthread just a little while ago.

I was an avid user of 4chan, not Tumblr.

> I'm speaking of what I have observed among a cohort in which you have, I repeat, affirmatively disclaimed membership, rendering your observations of your own behavior moot in this context.

You wrote:

>in that the deepest and most shameful secret of both websites' most avid users is that they have always been both websites' most avid users.

The plain reading of this claim is that the power users of both websites used both websites. I have no reason to think that this is true, and you haven’t made any argument as to why you think it is true. The way you are reading what you have written would make your claim tautological: i.e. “The users who used both websites used both websites.”

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Post by seanw444 »

sph wrote: post #703
KennyBlanken wrote: post #540

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Multiple white supremacist mass shooter have been 4chan users and they cheered on the Buffalo shooter who was live updating during his murder spree: https://www.thetrace.org/newsletter/4chan-moderation-buffalo... The christchurch shooter was a 4chan regular https://theconversation.com/christchurch-terrorist-discussed... The whole "boogaloo" white nationalist/supremacist movement started on 4chan: https://www.splcente…

How many of these used Facebook, Twitter or Reddit? They are not mentioned in mainstream media because they are popular, but I assure you there are a lot of deranged people that never even posted on 4chan and just stuck to the “good” ones.

Or the countless people that like and use 4chan, and would never remotely consider perpetrating such a heinous act.

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Post by DougN7 »

fransje26 wrote: post #750
ryandrake wrote: post #556

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> Just with a bunch of extra features hastily grafted and grown organically, but never dealing with the insane amount of technical debt. This describes probably 95%+ of the entire software world, from enterprise, to SaaS to IoT to mobile to desktop to embedded... Everything seems to be hastily thrown together features that barely work and piles of debt that will never get fixed. It's a wonder anything actually even w…

> It's a wonder anything actually even works. > If cars were made like this, there would be millions of them breaking down by the side of the road daily. Next to the software side of things, I also often wonder about planes. But, until now, they have proved fairly resilient to falling out of the sky, except for the well known "recent" events. Which is fairly surprising, knowing the levels of mismanagement at play. We…

Funny anecdote - I was flying through Minneapolis and the passengers on a plane about to depart had to get back off the plane so it could be rebooted. It takes 20 minutes to power down to zero and 20 minutes to boot back up. The gate agent said it was a known touchy computer on that plane - I was wondering if that was true.

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Post by sleepybrett »

danielktdoranie wrote: post #820
KPGv2 wrote: post #640

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> the bad men say the mean things You really lose all credibility when you downplay the richest man on earth openly bribing voters and the President claiming the man helped rig voting machines, and that same man makes Nazi salutes and goes to Europe and supports the Nazi party in the place where they invented Nazi parties. And then he basically moves into the White House and magically his companies start getting gove…

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There are ways to battle waste, fraud, and abuse that do not resort to 'parachute into the middle of an agency, fire most of the staff and then walk away congratulating yourself because you eliminated waste, fraud, and abuse.'

Sure you lowered the spend of the agency, but you probably, by removing all the people who actively investigate/police waste, fraud and abuse, promoted more people to defraud the agency and not get caught.

Congratulations, you played yourself.

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Post by Alifatisk »

OhioMan2943 wrote: post #472
rootsudo wrote: post #38

Wow doxing the Jannies! I mean, wow, they’re doxing people that helped keep a legacy internet place alive and compliant with the law. Who would do that?

Whoever's trying their hardest to shut down the rest of the free internet as well. I do think these actions we've seen in the last 5 years are co-ordinated. Will post sources soon

> Will post sources soon

When?

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Post by thatguy0900 »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #206
greazy wrote: post #134

4chan is a reflection of the depraved, extreme side of humanity. Twitter has taken on the mantle of 'asshole of the internet', but I think the rotten apples post in both. 4chan is oddly accepting of gay and trans people. I've seen gay and trans porn side by side with bbc and bwc porn posts. Strange to see racist trans porn lovers. I like 4chan for the minor boards, not /pol/ or /b/. But /boardgames/ and /dyi/ and /in…

> 4chan is oddly accepting of gay and trans people. I've seen gay and trans porn side by side with bbc and bwc porn posts. Strange to see racist trans porn lovers. It only seems odd because many people interpret this through a U.S.A. “culture war” lens and “gay people”. You believe they're “accepting of gay people” in the sense of that culture war because of the “gay porn”. In reality, they take more of a classical G…

Hardly universal, if you go to those threads and BBC threads it's usually full of people also commenting that they believe it's a Jewish psyop to corrupt young men

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Post by sksrbWgbfK »

scryers_bloom wrote: post #856
lysp wrote: post #848

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> racist and antisemitic There was a leak of the political channel by poster's country. According to that post, the top posting country by far (226M posts) is also the same country that is at the receiving end of antisemitism.

Yet another reason 4chan and its anonymity is a misinformation and propaganda warzone.

"unapologetically" and propaganda are quite opposite concepts in that situation. Make up your mind because you are the one pushing for discord here.

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Post by infintropy »

toofy wrote: post #779
ryandrake wrote: post #556

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> Just with a bunch of extra features hastily grafted and grown organically, but never dealing with the insane amount of technical debt. This describes probably 95%+ of the entire software world, from enterprise, to SaaS to IoT to mobile to desktop to embedded... Everything seems to be hastily thrown together features that barely work and piles of debt that will never get fixed. It's a wonder anything actually even w…

> Everything seems to be hastily thrown together features that barely work and piles of debt that will never get fixed. move fast and break things is going to be studied in the future as a hilariously clusterfuk misuse of an idea.

It's hard to appreciate that there is a vast difference between hitting walls in a tank and not caring about the exterior, and slamming into a wall on a bicycle.

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Post by ASalazarMX »

starfezzy wrote: post #850
PixelForg wrote: post #593

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My main problem with 4chan is how they talk, like the language they use. They really don't care about anyone's feelings and show a lack of empathy. Unfortunately this has been spreading to other social media as well. Imagine how good a place it could have been if people over there talked like people on HN.

3/10 troll That's antithetical to many of the foundational rules of the internet, which are core to 4chan culture. The whole point is that they don't let the fluctuating, weak-willed whims of normie sensibilities determine what's allowed.

> That's antithetical to many of the foundational rules of the internet, which are core to 4chan culture.

The most foundational rule of the Internet was the sharing of information, and that's a coincidence of hackers being the first to adopt it. Being macho and emotionally stunted was never a foundational value, that's immature manchildren equating kindness with weakness.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

chasd00 wrote: post #781
_DeadFred_ wrote: post #595

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Forget cars, imagine if we treated government systems that millions of people's entire medical care/retirement/lives/national security/secrets/proof of existence depend upon this way? Luckily we treat those systems a little more seriously even though it costs us a little bit more/doesn't allow us to move fast and break things in that space.

Government software of those types are some of the worst on the planet.

Other than, you mean, the next best option of break things and ruin peoples lives in the process because it fits the current software development paradigms? I'm old, I've seen 'the new right way' come then become 'the worst way of doing things on the planet' over at least 5 iterations now.
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