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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by consteval »

enoch_r wrote: post #721
consteval wrote: post #698

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There are children who are transgender today and they're not changing in front of other's. I don't know where this delusional that dudes are just hanging brain around women is coming from. You're right, that doesn't happen. That's a conservative's wet dream. I'm sure you, and others, would be beyond ecstatic if transgender people were doing that. Maybe then, you'd have a smidge of justification for all this. For the…

> I don't know where this delusional that dudes are just hanging brain around women is coming from. You're right, that doesn't happen. That's a conservative's wet dream. I'm sure you, and others, would be beyond ecstatic if transgender people were doing that. Maybe then, you'd have a smidge of justification for all this. Me: "I want our society to allow businesses to prohibit people with penises from receiving certai…

> If it's not happening, why not allow businesses to prohibit it?

Well, we aren't.

But, more specifically, the stuff the left does have a problem with is not doing this. You, and other conservatives, are trying to play innocent. This "what, lil ole me?" approach to policy making and the publicity associated with it does not fly.

If you read the bills, any of them, take your pick, proposed by states across the US you would understand they aren't doing innocuous things like this. They are targeting transgender people and crossdressers in a much more extreme fashion. Limiting adults access to medical care, enforcing dress codes in public, and even making their very existence untenable.

You, as, I'm assuming, a proponent of government restraint should be against these. These affect non-trans people as well, and set a dangerous precedent for what the government is allowed to know. It harms privacy, autonomy, healthcare.

When these other vast downsides are brought up, you, predictably, put on the "nooo we're not going to do that!" charade. Surprise, after this administration we can no longer believe that. Practically everything everyone thought was off limits is no longer so. You can continue to play stupid, yes. But you should be careful - after a certain point, people might start believing you are just stupid.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by yerushalayim »

blindriver wrote: post #44
snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

Scary can be an effective deterrent against unsavory adversaries.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by freen »

runarberg wrote: post #762
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #699

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Simple. It doesn't cause (genuine) outrage and it doesn't get them shut down. AOC for example, protested these private prisons during Trump's first term and went silent on them when Biden didn't close them.

Here is a tweet from soon after Biden took office in January 2021: > People must understand the depth of what’s happening here: the President of the United States has ordered a halt to deportations. ICE, a federal agency, is refusing to comply. > There’s no reforming this rogue dept. It’s time for a new, just vision. https://x.com/AOC/status/1354211627940384768 A month later she was criticizing DHS for still having P…

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by freen »

Question for folks not in the USA: has your willingness to travel to the United States changed? Would you attend a conference/meeting/university in the US?

America First means America Isolated.

Also, this isn’t the first time we’ve seen “America first” as a political slogan, and, well, Dr Seuss said it best.

https://jimsmash.blogspot.com/2017/02/america-first-2-dr-seu...

The history of “America First”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

wraaath wrote: post #734
anonshadow wrote: post #570

This is the money shot : "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts. The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these…

GEO Group also operates similar facilities in Australia, and is publicly traded in the US stock market under the symbol GEO. For the quarter ending 12/31/2024, they had top line revenue of 608M, but pre-tax income came in at 24M, and carrying debt of 2.3B. Somehow with such thin profit margins, their stock is trading at a 4B market capitalization and carrying a 128 P/E (by comparison, Google carries a 20 P/E, Meta 24…

10-Ks are one of the last places to find actual honesty in business. We partially have SOX to thank for that.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by enoch_r »

consteval wrote: post #891
enoch_r wrote: post #721

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't know where this delusional that dudes are just hanging brain around women is coming from. You're right, that doesn't happen. That's a conservative's wet dream. I'm sure you, and others, would be beyond ecstatic if transgender people were doing that. Maybe then, you'd have a smidge of justification for all this. Me: "I want our society to allow businesses to prohibit people with penises from receiving certai…

> If it's not happening, why not allow businesses to prohibit it? Well, we aren't. But, more specifically, the stuff the left does have a problem with is not doing this. You, and other conservatives, are trying to play innocent. This "what, lil ole me?" approach to policy making and the publicity associated with it does not fly. If you read the bills, any of them, take your pick, proposed by states across the US you…

You seem more interested in debating the imaginary version of me in your head than in having an actual discussion here, so have fun, I think you can do that on your own.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by seec »

blindriver wrote: post #44
snapcaster wrote: post #3

This is horrible and scary, why border guards are even giving the authority to revoke visas is beyond me. When people think about giving cops/guards authority like this they need to be picturing the dumbest bully from their grade school. That's who is going to be using the power

Every country is like this. Israel is the scariest but I remember decades ago crossing into Switzerland by train and in the middle of the night being woken up by border guards with barking German shepherds asking for my passport. I have so many stories it’s funny. On top of the other stories I’ve already posted, my friend who is Canadian drove into Buffalo for dinner and on his way back, they asked him where are you…

Of course, it's kind of the point of having borders and control, if they let anyone in without verifying, it's not even worth having a border.

Going from France to UK is like that, and before Shenzen, it was like that from EU country to EU country. When I was young, we had to wait for 2 hours with my parents while they checked everything was in order for a Spain border crossing (we were in a big RV so it makes sense).

People on HN have very soft views of the world, being too idealistic libertarian or some sort of socialist derived ideology. Most people may not be criminal but you have to process everyone crossing the border as if because otherwise it's pointless and you will never catch the criminals...

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by seec »

blindriver wrote: post #506
wk_end wrote: post #492

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I’m commenting on an article and don’t feel as though I should need more research than what’s written in it. Based on her account, that’s not really accurate, and I do actually trust her (and Guardian fact-checkers) more than your anonymous claims. Feel free to give sources. Anyway: it’s still moot. What she did, even based on your account, is not illegal. It’s not illegal to apply for TN, period. If the appli…

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I was getting suspicious the more I read. When she said the guard though she was shady, I knew something definitely was up.

Guards/cops/whatever maybe be dumb sometime but they don't say this when everything is done correctly. If she had just made an honest mistake, she would have been told so and corrected. But clearly, she tried to do something that wasn't allowed or played with the lines on how things have to be done. Then she complains that she got detained for it. If you don't respect the rules, there are consequences, women tend to forget it because they get away with all kind of shit in today's society.

Also, The Guardian has a habit of obfuscating the truth (by omitting facts or orienting the narrative) to create outrage, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by seec »

transcriptase wrote: post #88
BizarreByte wrote: post #28

The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point. For the foreseeable future I will not be travelling to the US for any reason. Canada is safe and there is nothing in the US worth risking my freedom for. I will remain here and I will continue to avoid travel to America as well as spending money on American goods/services.

The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out. Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news be…

Exactly. From her own story you can also infer that pretty much everyone who was detained with her was in fact illegal. Nobody cares about them because they don't have the reach of this white woman; not that anyone would care, because they can't make up a bullshit story to pretend that they got unfairly detained.

It may not seem right, but enforcing laws is kind of the point of having borders and cops and things like that. I'm amazed how many people are complaining.

This woman is clearly shady and got what she deserved and that's that.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by wraaath »

TheNewsIsHere wrote: post #895
wraaath wrote: post #734

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GEO Group also operates similar facilities in Australia, and is publicly traded in the US stock market under the symbol GEO. For the quarter ending 12/31/2024, they had top line revenue of 608M, but pre-tax income came in at 24M, and carrying debt of 2.3B. Somehow with such thin profit margins, their stock is trading at a 4B market capitalization and carrying a 128 P/E (by comparison, Google carries a 20 P/E, Meta 24…

10-Ks are one of the last places to find actual honesty in business. We partially have SOX to thank for that.

You still do see plenty of trash in the 10-K's with all of the massaged messaging, but yeah.
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