Does anybody know if his employer, TrueCar, had UHC as their health insurance provider?
He is 26. He likely was on his parent's insurance until very recently.
What we know about CEO shooting suspect
891–900 of 1001 posts
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#892Earlier quoted context omitted.
Final sentence is telling (among others): "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators. Although I'm not sure what "predators" means here. Don't predators use violence?
He's basically correct though. This statement has also sat terribly with me. Especially given how much we glorify documents like the constitution or declaration of independence. Like many absolute statements, this claim is just plain wrong. America (and many other countries) were started by revolutions. The revolutionaries had guns. Countries like India are unique for gaining freedom without violence. I mean just loo…
>glorify documents like the constitution or declaration of independence.
It's worth the paper it's written on, perhaps less. It gives fools the fodder for the braying the rhetoric they speak and argue.
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#893Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Probably fail to do so, then eventually get convicted on all charges and end up in a supermax penitentiary for life. Where he will finally get decent health care for free.
Decent health care? In prison? Are you serious?
Re-calibrate your sarcasm detector.
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#894Earlier quoted context omitted.
Educated people tend to overestimate their abilities outside their domain. We've all known someone with an "I can do anything" complex. Anyone can do anything... poorly. He likely deluded himself into believing he already outsmarted the cops so why even bother. Having two degrees doesn't make one a competent plumber, electrician, or in this case, criminal.
>Educated people tend to overestimate their abilities outside their domain. This. And HN is the perfect example to observe this phenomenon. I lost track how many highly confident but incorrect takes I read here on semiconductor topics from people who assumed they know everything about any tech topic because they earn sich figures from writing crud web software.
[deleted]
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#895My pet theory is this is the form of "elite overproduction" where affluent kids lacking meaning in their life are drawn to stupid ideas combined with exaggerated sense of self-importance. Explains all kinds of morons from mild like Dean Preston (prep school? check, "change the world"? check) to crazy like this guy (prep school? check, "change the world"? check), and across the political spectrum from random Ivy-educated non-profit workers to Trump (prep school? check, "change the world"? check; although he was satisfied with being a rich asshole for most of his life and developed this syndrome later).
I'd like to call it "prep school scumbag syndrome". Trump is actually a good illustration of a related fact that hereditary rich who are content with being hedonistic assholes are much less harmful than the same in search of impact and meaning.
To fix it, we need new rule - if, adjusted for median same-ages pairings, you have/make less money than expected compared to your parents, you don't get to participate in politics in any way! Just kidding (sorta).
Notably, the slain CEO appears to have been from a working class family and a university of nowhere, and worked his way up. This is the kind of person I, personally, admire.
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#896He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.
> including the fake ID he used at the hostel I've stayed at that place multiple times, though years ago. They did check ID, but never copied it. I wonder how they knew it was fake.
So, according to this:
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian...
“I was informed... that defendant presented a forged New Jersey Driver’s License with the name of Mark Rosario as his identification, which based on the number on it was the same identification defendant presented at the hostel,"
So the hostel saved at least the number.
This was not the case at least 2 years ago. I'm absolutely certain.
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#897What's important is what we learned about society's appetite for political violence against the upper class. What isn't important is the actual actor.
I think you mean the appetite for political violence of people who are chronically online and lacking connection with reality
Frankly, everyone is sick of being raped by insurance companies. Online or not, people I know view insurance companies as absolute scum. Its not much of a stretch to condone violence against their leadership
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#898His x posts read like he was on an adderall bender. I wouldn't be surprised if he went into psychosis after losing a lot of sleep and never really got back to stability. Adderall and a passion rabbit-hole like societal change are a dangerous combination. The more deep you dive, the more disinterested people become with you, and the more disconnected you become with other people.
Have you, perhaps, had an adderall problem before? I have, and I used to say things like this a lot, but really I think its projection. How could you possibly know?
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#899Earlier quoted context omitted.
> how far off the deep end the internet went over the last few days. Side note - the "internet" is very likely a mix of bots and real humans nowadays. What might seem initially like a real person saying "hunt the snitch down" could very likely be a bot that is meant to sow and influence discord. That bot's followers could very likely be real people who then say "ya i agree with this account! get your pitchfork!"
Bots don't independently invent opinions separate from the people running them. Not even with LLMs. "Bots" are just sock puppets - people creating multiple identities for themselves so they can ballot-stuff the Court of Public Opinion. So it's not so much that there are no real people who want to hunt down the snitch, but that there's a very loud minority of performative extremists with an army of sock puppet account…
> there's a very loud minority of performative extremists with an army of sock puppet accounts who want to hunt down the snitch
The people running the bot armies for foreign influence operations probably do not care about hunting down the snitch, they are simply following orders to spread that message.
Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect
#900Earlier quoted context omitted.
A quick look at United Health's P/L shows a 6% profit margin. This does not quite support the popular rhetoric of a corporation in search of relentless margin (unless the argument is they are bad at it despite all efforts).
Profits after paying executive salaries, right? In any case there should not be a profit motive in (health) insurance.
Executive salaries represent less than 0.01% of UHG revenue.
Total revenue is about $320B. Thompson's compensation was $1M cash + about $10m stock (the stock part doesn't impact the company's profit margin).
In any case, executive salaries are basically a rounding error in the books.