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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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What misinformation does Tesla propagate

I think they're referring to Musk going off the deep end in general. There's also the whole "We'll have self driving cars in two years!" That they've been peddling for the last decade.

Even the way they marketed their early cars as self driving/autopilot was deceptive. Plus they covered up safety issues, and there have been many privacy issues as well.

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Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

At most, it just laid bare to see what were the normal social interactions and thoughts of millions of people and made possible far more viral spread of ideas. On the last one, I don't even think it's social media's fault, it's probably the whole internet at large, it's just these sorts of interactions happen most there.

I was thinking a lot about it, but at the times of IRC and forums (and modems ;) ) this was not an issue on society scale. Facebook actually revolutionized it and made it available to anyone including showing the more contraverse opinions to other people as it was more likely for them to click. They were/are literally pumping up all the bad in society, to earn more money.

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Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

This reeks of nostalgia. The past wasn't as great as you remember it, and the present isn't as terrible as you think it is.

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Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

For me personally they build a lot of trust back with their work on llama. Also they do have capable software engineers. But hardware is a different thing. I am still burned by their handling of hardware support for Oculus devices. To such a degree that neither VR nor AR is of significant interest anymore, never mind developing software for such products. That said, I was never a Facebook user. I do have an account a…

Paid and provided by "Pay to win games, targeting kids, not preventing fake news (covid, human harrassment etc.), probably someone died due to lack of taking ownership/responsibility, election fraud through not acting on it.

Yes i do like Llama but lets be honest who paid for it and for what.

Just because suckerburg gives us nice toys...

He could actually start giving his money away to humanity in a relevant and meaningful way to start fixing what he did to our society.

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It is Facebook. Everything in earshot and eyeshot of these glasses will be surveilled. AR is certainly cool tech. It is just too bad there’s no company doing it that isn’t doing it just to spy on you.

> Everything in earshot and eyeshot of these glasses will be surveilled. And ads will be plastered over everything in your field of vision. Honestly who would sign up for that?

Plenty of people pay money for smart tvs, Netflix, etc.

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Incredible amount of negativity here. Huge kudos to Meta for breaking new ground and doing a ton of R&D/M&A to get to this point. Once MicroLED comes on a little further and the form factor shrinks this could be the next consumer electronics platform. Silicon carbide is really interesting, we need high RI materials to make this work. Hopefully glass 3D printing or similar will make cheap, Rx waveguides possible.

Some people have morals and ethics and believe that its not okay to just do what facebook does without taking responsibility.

You build a platform which allows you to share fake news and pay to win shit to billions? You make sure the algorithm makes you as much money as possible?

You know who made sure facebook fixes this? Politics, not suckerburg.

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Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

The tech company that got Donald Trump elected, and helped make all of our grandparents into lunatics? That Facebook?

2017 called they want their meme back.

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Not only my point stands, I still remember a world almost without narcissists, people traveling for fun, not to take a photo to brag, times where people listened to doctors not some people recommending horse dewormer, UK not suffering due to Brexit consequences ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8425058/ ), people actually bonding in person,... Or in words of Umberto Eco ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umberto_Eco ): “So…

This reeks of nostalgia. The past wasn't as great as you remember it, and the present isn't as terrible as you think it is.

Yep

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

I don’t think ad placement for children should be the primary concern. Unless I’m misunderstanding the current state of the technology, it’s possible today with a little effort to put my biometrics in a feedback loop with (say) GPT-4o, and use those measurements to rapidly produce and refine an increasingly horrifying series of images, personalized to my lizard brain reactions. That’s gross, but the same technique co…

Pushing ads at children is a major concern because children have zero defenses against the kind of sophisticated manipulation advertisers use against them.

More than just ads though, collecting data on children is dangerous as well. We really don't need corporations starting a dossier on children and placing them into buckets at such an early age. It's bad enough we hand school children chromebooks so that Google can track their test scores, growth, and intelligence

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Trust Is Built in Drops and Lost in Buckets Negativity? Yes Facebook was negative for 20ish years and as a result of their behavior technical people don't like them. This is not something, we are wrong about even if your "negativity here" silently suggests that. You reminded me of something, please read this article: https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/leave_my_br... It is helpful for becoming negative t…

Did you just compare a Silicon Valley tech company selling ads to IG Farben? It’s very hard to take this post seriously even though your point stands.

Why are you downplaying them as “a tech company selling ads” when the most relevant characteristic of theirs is facilitating genocide in Myanmar, then obstructing the investigation, and fuelling ethnic violence in more places like Ethiopia?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

https://time.com/5880118/myanmar-rohingya-genocide-facebook-...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/07/facebooks...

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