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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by runeks »

Archelaos wrote: post #447
stkdump wrote: post #143

No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…

> I guess that is fair, especially with inflation nowadays. The accumulated inflation in the US since June 2019 is c. 17%.[1] This means US$ 55 in June 2019 is "worth" c. US$ 64.35 today. So it seems that you get a 4GB Raspi 5 for c. 7.25% less today. The "US Real Average Hourly Earnings" have increase by ca. 22% in the same period, from US$ 27.75 to US$ 33.82.[2] So an average person needs to work c. 12% less to buy…

> The accumulated inflation in the US since June 2019 is c. 17%.[1] This means US$ 55 in June 2019 is "worth" c. US$ 64.35 today. So it seems that you get a 4GB Raspi 5 for c. 7.25% less today.

Included in that 17% figure is the price increase for e.g. corn, rent and steaks.

Why should the change in price of either of these things be relevant to the price of a Raspberry Pi?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by op00to »

jamesdhutton wrote: post #800

I am curious to know how people here use their RPIs today, and how the RPI5 might help. I have had a model 3 for many years, which I enjoy tinkering with from time to time. I still haven't gotten over the novelty of having such small, cheap computer that runs Linux and does a pretty good job of it. That said, all I do is tinker with it. I turn it on, write a bit of code, marvel that the code runs, and turn it off. I'…

Until my home automation got complex enough to justify a faster, more capable machine, I ran all my home automation stuff on an RPi.

I use RPIs as "data collection" units. I have one RPi outside with a cheap SDR to pick up all the neighbor's weather stations, which I dump to a MQTT queue and use to populate weather data in my home. I use another to collect GOES satellite images.

I have 3-4 RPis that act as "Digital Ham Radio Hotspots", basically bridging my local ham radio via the internet to other stations. I use an RPi 4 as my "to-go" computer when I do ham radio in the woods. I use an iPad as a screen, and it works just as good as a laptop.

I have an RPi sitting in my garage as a second nameserver. The primary nameserver is in the house "data center".

I have an RPi plugged into my stereo receiver as a streaming device that lets me stream audio from my phone to the stereo.

I have 4 RPis connected togehter in a k3s cluster, for fun. IT doesn't work great. :)

I have two PiKVMs. They are truly awesome.

... I think that's it.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by op00to »

Slartie wrote: post #884
jamesdhutton wrote: post #800

I am curious to know how people here use their RPIs today, and how the RPI5 might help. I have had a model 3 for many years, which I enjoy tinkering with from time to time. I still haven't gotten over the novelty of having such small, cheap computer that runs Linux and does a pretty good job of it. That said, all I do is tinker with it. I turn it on, write a bit of code, marvel that the code runs, and turn it off. I'…

One is monitoring my trash bins in the backyard and generating visual output of emptying times, current location of the bins, alerts if they are still in the backyard but are scheduled to be emptied tomorrow (in which case I need to move them to the street in the front). This has been running on a Pi with Bluetooth (monitoring uses BLE beacons) for over five years now, with very little maintenance necessary. Another…

Trash reminders - awesome!

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by op00to »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #277
PrivateButts wrote: post #62

TBH the thing I hate most about this category of SBC is the reliance on SD cards. They are both too unreliable to trust and so slow that they often bottleneck the SBC. Buying them is often a crap shoot too, I've purchased cards batches of cards from the supposed reputable manufacturers that were all over the board when benchmarked, and rarely did they hit the claimed speed spec. I would love if there was an alternati…

You can netboot a Pi. Every Pi in my house netboots. I have a whole bunch of them. Some play games, some play videos, some play music, and a few other minor things. Because they all netboot, you can change what each one does by renaming a file on the server and then rebooting it. It's great.

What sort of issues do you see from netboot vs. booting of a USB SSD?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by op00to »

liminalsunset wrote: post #67
PrivateButts wrote: post #62

TBH the thing I hate most about this category of SBC is the reliance on SD cards. They are both too unreliable to trust and so slow that they often bottleneck the SBC. Buying them is often a crap shoot too, I've purchased cards batches of cards from the supposed reputable manufacturers that were all over the board when benchmarked, and rarely did they hit the claimed speed spec. I would love if there was an alternati…

This device has a PCIe 2.0 x1 connector now, so NVMe drives should be usable now. The Compute Module 4 series have been able to support eMMC chips, so I don't see why they wouldn't continue with the 5 if/when it shows up

PCIe 2.0 x1 is only 250 MB/s max. That seems like it may not be enough?

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by Narishma »

impalallama wrote: post #790
Narishma wrote: post #721

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's par for the course. Raspberry Pi always receives a lot of backlash here for some reason, regardless of the news.

Very interesting have a wildly popular in demand product turns people against you.

I feel like the negativity is coming mostly out of a very small minority that tend to gather here and to a lesser extent reddit. In other places there's much less of that.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by op00to »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #184
PrivateButts wrote: post #62

TBH the thing I hate most about this category of SBC is the reliance on SD cards. They are both too unreliable to trust and so slow that they often bottleneck the SBC. Buying them is often a crap shoot too, I've purchased cards batches of cards from the supposed reputable manufacturers that were all over the board when benchmarked, and rarely did they hit the claimed speed spec. I would love if there was an alternati…

FWIW, I boot my Pis almost exclusively from USB. Not that that's... great in terms of speed or reliability, but it's something.

For my Pis that change, I try to boot form USB. For Pis that don't change, I just make their / immutable.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by gsich »

op00to wrote: post #895
liminalsunset wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This device has a PCIe 2.0 x1 connector now, so NVMe drives should be usable now. The Compute Module 4 series have been able to support eMMC chips, so I don't see why they wouldn't continue with the 5 if/when it shows up

PCIe 2.0 x1 is only 250 MB/s max. That seems like it may not be enough?

Double that.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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Post by oliverpk »

Probably going to keep using RP4 model, as I don't use it to do anything performance heavy, but it's good to know that there is an upgrade available.
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