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There is the fact that Grusch gave sworn testimony to congress on it, he's going to prison for perjury if he's lying. Doesn't prove it, but it's more than just saying it in an interview.
He also could just be mentally ill and doesn't believe he's lying. It doesn't mean what he's saying is true.
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I assume that interstellar travel is really difficult for any civilization. That assumption is based on my knowledge of physics (relativity in particular).
Why is it difficult? You just point and shoot. Will take a long time but you will get there in the end.
I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…
Feels like someone started up the same government UFO psyop program that we had running during the cold war.
Maybe they're just trying to redirect all the Qanon crazies onto getting them chasing their tales looking for UFOs instead.
I find this subject fascinating. As the article states, Navy pilots are on record as eye witnesses for this stuff, along with the various radar feeds, etc. I'm curious what HN thinks of the following: There are 3 comprehensive possibilities (correct me if you think differently): 1. These crafts are ET origin 2. These crafts are human origin (secrete military tech or similar) 3. This is a psyop Due to the supposed fee…
"Navy pilots are on record" PSYops. What about being a "navy pilot" validates these claims? That's like saying "Police officers have come out on record to say that bad buys have lazer guns". Of course they would say that, they want everyone to think THEY have big lazer guns too! like any other piece of the military, Pilots are only allowed to disseminate what the current strategy-focus tells them to disseminate.
Or, you know, the things police officers actually say about fentanyl and its magic properties.
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How about cell phone video?[0] [0] https://www.dvidshub.net/video/843620/navy-2021-flyby-video
Can you point out what's happening in the video? I don't see anything
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Which is more likely? a) An alien civilization has overcome the massive problems of interstellar travel and is visiting us right now. or b) The people making these claims are wrong. While a) isn't impossible, b) seems so much more likely. Also if they have the technology to cross interstellar space, surely they have the technology not to be detected by us?
Can't there be a c) of "Who the hell knows, but there's a lot of evidence piling up." I'm with you in that I don't believe that an alien civilization that has overcome challenges of FTL, etc. would come to Earth to apparently joy-ride. There's something else that's causing trustworthy individuals to make these claims. At this point I just call it "magic" until a better word comes along. One theory is that these bogey…
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I don't understand why someone would have the docs and choose to hold them back while still going public. It ultimately weakens the story and his credibility, and if it is true, there's not much stopping the powers that he crossed in the process from coming after him anyway. The government isn't gonna go light on this guy simply because he didn't go to the press. They send a message to anyone who might be thinking ab…
I mean, I agree that he should have leaked it publicly because I'm "publicly" and I want to see it. But I think it's pretty unarguably true that if you feel it is incumbent on you to leak classified materials and are unwilling to go Snowden and flee the US, then your best bet for not being arrested is to give the documents to Congress so they can support your testimony and protect you from retaliation, then not go to…
Congress wouldn't protect him from retaliation anyway. Thomas Drake was raided by the FBI and indicted even though he didn't leak any intelligence. You're making yourself an enemy of the government the moment you open your mouth, regardless of whether or not you bring documentation.
I saw an interview with this guy just yesterday. He didn't see anything himself. His claim is that some people, and he believes them to be trustworthy, confided in him and showed him some documents. So, at best his testimony is hearsay. All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. My belief is that for some reason, the US government used psychology tests to identify a select few people who naturally "want to believ…
> All of this stuff reeks of some kind of psyop. Feels like someone started up the same government UFO psyop program that we had running during the cold war. Maybe they're just trying to redirect all the Qanon crazies onto getting them chasing their tales looking for UFOs instead.
If this was some psyop, they certainly go all out.
Funny, how HN is/isn't reacting to "US in possession of non-human technology".
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There's a simple, rational explanation: The man needs to make a living. Lectures, documentaries, a book. > He left the government in April after a 14-year career in US intelligence. A government pension requires 20 years IIRC. Grusch is only 36. The formula: Tell the truth where possible, be vague but suggestive about the rest. And of course there were secret UFO programs -- if something from Baikonur shows up here,…
My mom would 100% buy anything this guys says. It's a clever business idea. Especially with all of those recent flaky gov videos people are eating up wholesale, without any concept of what it actually means to do interstellar travel while simultaneously having invisible motherships. And the only 'evidence' comes from US pilots in a particular height in the sky, never on the ground or visible in space via telescopes..…
Funny, how HN is/isn't reacting to "US in possession of non-human technology".