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A personal question, and I truly mean no offense - are you on the spectrum? The only people I've met (in real life) to date who can't stand the taste of alcohol are children and people with Asperger's, I assume because bitter tastes are a sort of sensory overload for them. Purely anecdotal and could be a complete horseshit theory, but I'm just curious.
Or perhaps people who aren’t on the spectrum who don’t like the taste just keep it hidden and phrase it in some socially acceptable manner as to not offend the drunks.
America has a drinking problem
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#892Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, as someone who has 2-3 drinks per day, I've always been more surprised by the amount of people who basically don't drink at all. In that chart it's over half of Americans. Travel a bit, any you'll quickly discover that a couple drinks in the evening is basically normal in much of the world. I'm not arguing that it's healthy (it's not), but the median American really doesn't drink much - our Puritan values r…
Split a bottle of wine with the wife most days. That equates to 2-3 "standard" drinks per day I suppose. I find buying standard bottles of wine (versus boxes, 1.5L big bottles, etc.) exerts a certain amount of discipline. You're going to be averse to uncorking a new bottle after you just finished one :)
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#893People have the cause and effect backwards in my opinion. You know why "binge drinking" isn't a problem in Germany, except for when the Australians turn up for Oktoberfest? It's because you can just buy a beer on the side of the road with your currywurst, and drink it without being hassled. If you act up, you get arrested for acting up. Try openly having a few beers in the park in Australia or the US, you'll be run o…
The UK has both the freedom to drink in a park and a binge drinking problem.
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#894People have the cause and effect backwards in my opinion. You know why "binge drinking" isn't a problem in Germany, except for when the Australians turn up for Oktoberfest? It's because you can just buy a beer on the side of the road with your currywurst, and drink it without being hassled. If you act up, you get arrested for acting up. Try openly having a few beers in the park in Australia or the US, you'll be run o…
Germany has one of the highest alcohol consumption rates. Significantly higher than Australia. Almost double Canada.
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That’s a great (surprising) reference. Intellectually I know functional alcoholics exist but it’s still tough to come to grips with that many people drinking that much alcohol. I’m curious what it looks by age, geography, and household income.
I'm in the top decile of that posted chart. Some weeks I'll be higher, some weeks I'll be lower. Usually lower, but always above the ninth. Posting on a throwaway for what should be pretty obvious reasons. In the past week I've had about three bottles of gin in various cocktails, assorted craft beers of the IPA or imperial stout variety, a couple of whiskeys, and an aperitif most days. I've been drinking mostly while…
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When I read your story, as an Aussie, I felt really proud that we'd "beaten" the Brits at getting pissed. Perhaps this is part of the problem.
How odd, I used to work with an Aussie (Sydney) expat and he was glowingly boasting how much better they are at anything because competition. It’s so much part of their culture he said, that they will out-do anyone, even at their core traits (and so concluded that Sydney pizza is better than anything I’ve ever eaten. Me. Italian from Rome :D)
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In Australia, all alcohol (yes, even beer and wine) can only be bought at designated liquor stores. The vast majority of which are only open 10AM~10PM, with a handful in Sydney and Melbourne open after midnight. Further, public drinking is all but restricted to destitutes outside of NYE and Aus day. Contrast that with Germany. Every two blocks there's a Späti, many open 20–24h daily, each selling beer, wine, and spir…
I'm not sure that is Germany as a whole though, Berlin yes, but in Munich there are not nearly as many spatis, and from the people that I've interacted with, in smaller towns the only place to get a beer in the evening/night is the gas station.
That is because that is only place to buy anything. You wont buy bread in small town in the night either. Because the stores are closed.
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Two key bits - how drunk and who could afford it. Safe drinking water was a pain in the ass. So mild alcoholic drinks was the norm. That that'd give you a little buzz at best. Very few people could have afforded to be truly shitfaced 24/7.
From what I understand, the "safe drinking water was a pain in the ass" thing is largely a myth. Some good information available in this r/AskHistorians Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1svj1q/how_d...
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#899My version of why it happened, is that
1) in the 2000s, Russians had an impression that everybody drank and had fun, and they tried to match the common standard. Same thing was revealed in sociological studies in Western universities: every student said he wasn't drinking much but others were drinknig, so he had to do the same. 2) In the USSR, propaganda condemned drinking and at the same time we had an impression we were the most drinking country (according to statistics, it was completely wrong in the 90s, but was almost true in the 2000s). The reasoning (to abstain or strictly limit drinking) was ready for anyone.
Alcohol consumption soared in 2000s, from 12 to 18 L/year. But when many tried drinking to have fun and discovered that it wasn't much finnier, but was definitely more painful, they decided to abstain and took the reasons from media/propaganda, which were bulletproof.
Another reason is that
3) Social fabric got denser, and you could find more and more ways to socialize and have fun: hobbyists groups, community meetings, debates and enlightment, etc. Grassroots socialization was moderately persecuted in the late USSR, while Communist party and trade union meetings were obligatory, hence until mid-2000s Russians were allergic to any collectivism.
So, many started having more social activities, and had less need to hang out with drinks, or drink at home.
Compared to 2000s,
* it's extremely rare now to make jokes, sketches or comedy shows around being drunk * people stopped having lots of drinks at office parties, stopped keeping alcohol -- nowadays nobody would care to bring wine or something else to the office in the first place
But generally, the culture is still quite restrictive towardrs drinking: student dorms strictly forbid alcohol, drinking is forbidden in most public spaces and in many cities it's enforced -- my friend got taken 5 times to police station to write a verbal, and then had to pay fines. (That said, in other cites one may walk down a street with a beer, nobody would care.)
[1] Road traffic mortality attributable to alcohol in Russia, Razvodovsky YE. DOI: 10.15761/MHAR.1000122 https://www.oatext.com/Road-traffic-mortality-attributable-t... alcohol consumption charts [2] Population Drinking and Homicide Rate in RussiaRazvodovsky YE*, DOI: 10.41 72/2167-0358.1000182 https://www.longdom.org/open-access/population-drinking-and-...
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I think having children limits serious partying, but what do you drink when you’re eating your evening meals? Only water? Maybe it’s a southern European thing, but I can’t imagine eating a heavy meal without the acidity of a red wine, for example.
I usually have an espresso for that + water. If only because I find the wine people annoying and so I refuse to learn how wine pairing works.