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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by rayiner »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #645
starik36 wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't be fair when you only blame Fox for fact-free content when the same fact-free content(just inverted) is peddled by all the other mass media outlets. They just cater to a different bubble.

> all the other mass media outlets All? C'mon. You can make the argument that MSNBC is a mirror of Fox News in terms of coddling its viewers, but if you're calling NPR or the New York Times "fact-free," you're only betraying your own ignorance of journalism standards. Investigating facts and reporting them clearly is a solved problem. There are people who go to universities to study how to do this well, then go to wo…

> There are people who go to universities to study how to do this well, then go to work for institutions committed to doing this well.

And a lot of these people have lost their minds. I’m trying to explain to my college educated friends right now why using “whiteness” as a pejorative is a bad thing. As an engineer I’ve always been skeptical of liberal arts education. But I didn’t think it would destroy America.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

pfdietz wrote: post #815
djsumdog wrote: post #808

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That's literally what's been disputed. Your opinion doesn't make it fact. The courts have literally said they will not hear any testimony at all, both the 7th circuit who decided they had standing but the case had no merit, and the Supreme Court which decided Texas had no standing in the only venue available for States to resolve conflicts with other States (a state cannot sue in another state court). The Supreme Cou…

It's a lie in the same sense unicorns exist is a lie. No evidence justifying the claim has been presented in court, despite ample opportunity. This tells us the persons making the claims had no valid evidence. All that exists is self-justifying propaganda.

>No evidence justifying the claim has been presented in court, despite ample opportunity.

Can you please point me to a court case that allowed evidence to be heard before being dismissed?

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by paradox242 »

bra-ket wrote: post #515
pentae wrote: post #450

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Have you actually watched Fox News lately? Right wingers are leaving it in droves because except for a few pundits (Tucker Carlson etc) They are too moderate. Most of the craziness is on social media these days and right wing news sites on the web

it's not that Fox News became "moderate" , they became just another left-wing propaganda hub like CNN and WaPo , except for very few commentators like Tucker and Ingraham. Their elections coverage was a disaster as well. I think they are in identity crisis of sorts.

How do I know you're delusional? You think Fox News is a "left-wing propaganda hub".

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by divbzero »

CarelessExpert wrote: post #855
tunesmith wrote: post #811

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Yesterday was the first time in four years I was tempted to call bottom. I hesitate to be sure, but I think it's more likely than not that we hit bottom yesterday and that the next two weeks and inauguration won't be worse.

Yesterday the pipe bombs that were found didn't have a chance to explode. It might not work out so well next time. And given there are over 100 GOP representatives still pushing the false narrative that the election was stolen, there will be a next time.

138 out of 435 US representatives objected to Pennsylvania’s election results. That’s over 30% of the country’s representatives lending credence to that false narrative even after yesterday’s events.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by alea_iacta_est »

ChrisLomont wrote: post #875
alea_iacta_est wrote: post #839

They can suspend whoever they want, that won't make the 70 millions people who voted for him, and the reasons why they voted for him disappear. Hiding the thermometer doesn't make the fever go away.

>Hiding the thermometer doesn't make the fever go away. Removing a constant toxic input helps cure the patient.

The patient was sick before Trump, it will continue to be sick after he's gone (maybe even sicker).

So yeah, good luck believing the problem is behind.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by jmull »

bryan_w wrote: post #772
jmull wrote: post #497

This is so Facebook. * Enables and encourages (and makes money off of) spreading hate messages on their platform for years * Hamhandedly does a full reverse and bans of one of the leading spreaders only after it's too late to make a difference. * But just in time to curry favor with the groups newly in power. A twist to the old cliche: too much, too late. How cowardly.

> only after it's too late to make a difference. I think you underestimate how much damage he can still do

Good point.

I probably should have written something like “... only after so much damage to our society has already been done.”

I am worried about about what he and his supporters will still do.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by mensetmanusman »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #645
starik36 wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't be fair when you only blame Fox for fact-free content when the same fact-free content(just inverted) is peddled by all the other mass media outlets. They just cater to a different bubble.

> all the other mass media outlets All? C'mon. You can make the argument that MSNBC is a mirror of Fox News in terms of coddling its viewers, but if you're calling NPR or the New York Times "fact-free," you're only betraying your own ignorance of journalism standards. Investigating facts and reporting them clearly is a solved problem. There are people who go to universities to study how to do this well, then go to wo…

Internal polls of NYT employees show less than 10% conservatives.

Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by tetrometal »

horsawlarway wrote: post #431
tetrometal wrote: post #378

What is unbelievable about that? It's completely reasonable. People were pissed about lack of election transparency. All they wanted were real audits of the election, but all they got was "Shut up, go home, there's no evidence, stop looking into things."

Shut the fuck up. Seriously. I live in Fulton county. My wife worked the polls. We're engaged in the democratic process here. This was audited to hell and back. It was checked, and checked again. It was checked by both parties. It was checked by the courts. It was checked by the governor, by the secretary of state, by the media, it was even checked by the fucking companies who made the ballot machines. So when you sa…

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Re: Facebook Indefinitely Suspends Trump

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Post by trynumber9 »

ChrisLomont wrote: post #875
alea_iacta_est wrote: post #839

They can suspend whoever they want, that won't make the 70 millions people who voted for him, and the reasons why they voted for him disappear. Hiding the thermometer doesn't make the fever go away.

>Hiding the thermometer doesn't make the fever go away. Removing a constant toxic input helps cure the patient.

I somewhat doubt that medical analogy. Many of Trump's supporters are galvanized by the the conflict between Trump and the media, extending to the social media companies too. In my discussions I have not found many Trump supporters who think he is portrayed fairly in the media or treated fairly by Twitter and Facebook. Most also think important information is being suppressed.
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