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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by cbozeman »

nemo wrote: post #517
sdljfjafsd wrote: post #413

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Is that really any different from any other state, including California? Rural vs urban culture are completely different in every state in America. As Californians we still insulate ourselves from rural culture. The only difference in California those counties don't form the bulk of the electorate while in Texas they do. We still have the same problem: a cultural divide between rural and urban.

I live in TX. I am very, very careful when I'm out in the sticks since the shitkickers are dangerous. I also lived in CA and even in the sticks out in central CA there's just nothing like the scale of xenophobic belligerence in rural TX (or the rest of the Bible Belt).

Yeah, if you're running around in a rainbow-colored, "I Love Sucking Cock" t-shirt, or wearing a, "Communism is the Bestism" shirt or some stupid shit like that, then yeah, you're not going to like rural Texas.

Newsflash, you're not going to like upstate New York, either.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by ekianjo »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #164
ekianjo wrote: post #9

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When you mention excessive regulations you might want to look at all regulations, not just cherry pick one of them to make a point.

Yes, perhaps also Texas regulations prohibiting marijuana, assisted suicide, proper sex education in public schools, no liquor permits for public traded companies, restrictions on mail in voting, etc.

You make it sound like restrictions on mail in voting is a bad thing.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nondeveloper »

foobiekr wrote: post #840
nondeveloper wrote: post #768

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We moved to Salt Lake City, Utah. Quality of life is high and cost of living is low. We had a huge variety of housing choices at many price points. Groceries, gas, and utilities are much cheaper. People are friendly. The culture is different. More people here are religious [0]. Alcohol is strictly controlled [1] and the driving BAC limit is .05, lower than the typical .08. Cannabis is not legal. The Church of Jesus C…

I lived in SLC for a few months and really loved it. The area is quite nice. The winter inversions, once upon a time, made the air quality a real concern, but the bay area has now topped that with the very frequent smoke days. But .. are you mormon? Otherwise, how are you finding the social isolation? SLC itself is now 50% mormon, but the surrounding areas are still mormon-dominated. I like mormons, but they are defi…

My partner and I are Jewish and gay. Salt Lake has a small, tight-knit community of the former and a large, diffuse community of the latter; though we haven't been socializing because of the pandemic. The Latter-day Saints we've met have been unfailingly kind and welcoming to us, which is surprising given how they were characterized to us before we moved. Do I expect the more observant of them to welcome us in? Not really. But they've been the best neighbors. A group of them recently volunteered time and money to help landscape Salt Lake's synagogue [0].

[0] https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/8/12/21353766/latter-day-...

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by cbozeman »

rconti wrote: post #583
techsupporter wrote: post #220

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My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

This. I grew up in Seattle, and people "fleeing California" has been a meme since at least the early 80s, but no doubt, for many decades before that. Notice he's "fleeing" after he made his billions.

Well he hasn't made shit yet, since in order to access those "billions" he has to sell stock options to get them. And I'd wager every dollar I have he has no intention of liquidating all his stock options.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by claydavisss »

setpatchaddress wrote: post #223
beowulfey wrote: post #200

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Why do you still pay taxes in California? Do you have a residence there?

CA Tax Board is pretty aggressive: if you work for a business located in CA, they want your income.

I work for a CA company and work in TX. I do not pay CA taxes, and my taxes are prepared by an accountant.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by kleinsch »

unnouinceput wrote: post #831

Quote: "With a net worth of $134.7B, Musk recently surpassed Bill Gates as the second-richest person in the world, and he's on track to earn more than $50 billion in stock options. If he remained in California, he’d be facing income taxes on the profits when he exercises them. In Texas, there is no income tax. " Rest is blah blah, this right there is the real reason for such a move. Can't blame the man either, I'll d…

CA will still come after you for profits on options granted while you were a CA resident, even if you exercise after leaving CA.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by Rapzid »

devsquid wrote: post #877
S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

Lord you bought this story hook line and sinker... > But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here. I like that... You hear this a lot lately from tech bros. It's hilarious considering how many things are illegal in Texas. Ya you can buy an assault rifle, but its illegal to buy hard liquor on Sunday. Have you ever looked at their gerrymandering? Did you know during th…

Both things are true.

Hispanics are set to become the largest racial demographic soon. ~13% of the population is black.

Houston is one of the, if not the depending on the report, racially diverse cities in the country. It's a bit self segregated geographically, but is pretty impressive and there is a lot of culture to be found. Large Asian community with substantial communities from countries that don't really exist elsewhere in the state.

The state is also more or less purple outside the voting booth. Major metro areas have higher concentrations of liberals. Etc etc.

Pretty much a microcosm of the USA.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by cbozeman »

goatherders wrote: post #307
techsupporter wrote: post #220

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My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

I've lived in Austin 25 years and have long said "The price we pay for living in such a great city is we have to be surrounded by the rest of Texas."

Yeah, who doesn't love a tent city.

Austin is trying to turn in a smaller scale version of San Francisco, complete with needles and shit on the streets.

Nothing about that is "great". I'll take Fort Worth over that any day.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by tomcam »

no_wizard wrote: post #880
Phobophobia wrote: post #746

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Mind posting a zillow link or similar? I'm evaluating moving to different metro areas, and my research for Minnesota yielded higher costs.

I grew up in Minnesota, rural to cities. I liken it to the California of the Midwest. Its nots the cheapest , its more middle of the road (though, I think in absolute terms there are places around Chicago that outpace the cost of the highest cost parts of Minneapolis-St. Paul Metro last time I looked, granted that was a few years ago). Its culturally though, very liberal (from my own experience, tends to also be very…

I am old-fashioned and like places that support police departments. I own property and have children and stuff
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