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Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by psychomugs » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 5:48 AM UTC

bruxis wrote: post #874

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

I'm not sure why you cite Japan as an outlier regarding size preferences and smaller-than-average hand sizes, which I generally do not believe to be true and could not find any hard data to cite (source: I live there). Regardless, the iPhone SE did not sell _as_ well in Japan due to a variety of factors, not the least of which being that the iPhone 7 introduced built-in Suica support. Suica is a mobile cash card tech…

In my time abroad in Japan, I found that bringing a small bag was almost an imperative compared to the US where it still seems taboo. This relaxes the pocketability constraint so bringing a larger phone isn't as big of a deal.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by antpls » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 5:56 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

> The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android.

I stopped to look at Single Thread performance long time ago when comparing phones. I now look for AI coprocessor performances, new sensor types and wireless charging performance

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by justlexi93 » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:01 AM UTC

I am not planning to get it but as usual the early reviews that I found on the internet state that this budget-friendly iPhone is worth it. It still has a single main camera shooter though which is not good things since you can actually get a tri camera set up from their competitors like Samsung and Huawei.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by fomine3 » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:13 AM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #886

bruxis wrote: post #874

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure why you cite Japan as an outlier regarding size preferences and smaller-than-average hand sizes, which I generally do not believe to be true and could not find any hard data to cite (source: I live there). Regardless, the iPhone SE did not sell _as_ well in Japan due to a variety of factors, not the least of which being that the iPhone 7 introduced built-in Suica support. Suica is a mobile cash card tech…

People have been hoping that Google opts for global NFC capability but Pixel4 disappointed everyone on that regard. Sony and NTT Docomo have a stranglehold on the Android ecosystem. No JP NFC supporting android phone ever has more than 3 LTE bands. The only unlocked Android phone that isn't crippled is Oppo's Reno A, and that's an expensive middle range Qualcomm SoC, which is slower than Apples 3 year old devices. Ap…

There are many unlocked Android phones in Japan that supports more than 3 LTE bands/NFC&Felica. example: AQUOS sense3,

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by WoodenChair » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:16 AM UTC

antpls wrote: post #892

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

> The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. I stopped to look at Single Thread performance long time ago when comparing phones. I now look for AI coprocessor performances, new sensor types and wireless charging performance

> I stopped to look at Single Thread performance long time ago when comparing phones. I now look for AI coprocessor performances, new sensor types and wireless charging performance

The amount of daily time the average person spends doing tasks affected by single core performance versus the amount of time people spend doing AI related tasks or using exotic sensors makes you an outlier.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by fomine3 » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:25 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

It's important that we can't buy smaller good smartphones even if we want. In addition, recently smartphone's screen is getting bigger without expanding the body. AQUOS R2 compact is smaller device but has 5.2 inch screen.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kayoone » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:32 AM UTC

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #667

kayoone wrote: post #657

I don't really get the hate for the lack of a headphone jack tbh. Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? My Beats Solo 3 have fantastic battery life, i can switch between devices with a click of a button (in the case of the Bose QC35 even be connected to two devices at the same time, listening to music on the laptop while being able to receive phone calls on the phone…

Yes you need it. I have a great pair of BT headphones, but I also have a great pair of wired headphones. There are times when I would prefer to use the wired ones, not the least of which is when walking through a busy city where BT likes to cut out from all the interference. Our Mini-Van also doesn't have BT. I have to use my USB-C adapter which means I can't charge and listen at the same time. Very inconvenient on l…

my car also doesn't have BT, i use a cheap adapter to charge and have audio out at the same time. It's not great, but in your case you would also have to run two wires, so not really a difference.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by neya » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:33 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #854

1163 Comment right now, ~800 Are about Size of Devices. I thought there was another important point. The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well. This is important if you are doing or using Web Apps like Discourse…

> The current entry level iPhone; iPhone SE 2020 with A13 is now faster in Single Threaded performance than ALL current shipping Android, including Flagship Android. And judging by the Qualcomm roadmap, this will likely remain the same in 2021 as well.

Citation please?

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kayoone » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:37 AM UTC

yodsanklai wrote: post #817

kayoone wrote: post #657

I don't really get the hate for the lack of a headphone jack tbh. Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? My Beats Solo 3 have fantastic battery life, i can switch between devices with a click of a button (in the case of the Bose QC35 even be connected to two devices at the same time, listening to music on the laptop while being able to receive phone calls on the phone…

> Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? I have bluetooth headphones, but I still rely on my wired earbuds if I go running, or if I want to travel light, or for phone calls. And I also have regular non-bluetooth good quality headphones that I like to use (especially when the bluetooth ones run out of battery). For me, it's not only a matter of sound quality, but I fin…

i use bluetooth airpods for calls and even for cycling long distances. They are very light and basically no messing around with bluetooth. Battery life isn't stellar, but enough for a couple of hours continued use and when i put them in the case they recharge automatically. When they run out, i have Beats Solo 3 over-ears bluetooth headphones which easily last for days.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by kayoone » Thu, Apr 16, 2020, 6:40 AM UTC

Nition wrote: post #666

kayoone wrote: post #657

I don't really get the hate for the lack of a headphone jack tbh. Have people complaining about this ever really given good bluetooth headphones a chance? My Beats Solo 3 have fantastic battery life, i can switch between devices with a click of a button (in the case of the Bose QC35 even be connected to two devices at the same time, listening to music on the laptop while being able to receive phone calls on the phone…

I don't know about everyone else but I sometimes use a 3.5mm to RCA cable to play music from the phone through a stereo.

i have a chromecast audio on the stereo which i find more convenient to use anyway because you can keep using your phone like normal while the chromecast is running spotify. For rare cases where I need direct audio, Bluetooth audio receivers are also pretty cheap. I am not saying you don't have a valid point, but you make it sound like it's impossible or inconvenient which imo isn't true.