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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by ACCount37 »

bigyabai wrote: post #634
ACCount37 wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considered that this is the first jet shot down in the entire war? "High mobility SAMs" alone completely fails to explain it. They had high mobility SAMs for the entire war, with nothing to show for it. Something else must have happened there.

Not the first jet hit , and definitely not the first aircraft downed. The F-35 incident was widely suspected to be a Qaem 118 missile, which fits the bill for road mobile multispectral SAM perfectly. More than a dozen drones were downed too, and even the rescue helicopters are evading air defenses according to CENTCOM. > They had high mobility SAMs for the entire war, with nothing to show for it. This is certainly so…

I wouldn't count 2-3 downed jets across many thousands of sorties "working quite well", no.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by cap11235 »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #880
hereme888 wrote: post #567

Iran, who armed itself to the teeth, shoots down a 30-yr-old fighter jet. Crew expected to have survived. Acceptable win ratio for the U.S. (whom many of you despise).

> Acceptable win ratio for the U.S. (whom many of you despise). No. Many people despise the trump administration, not the US.

Shhh, don't interrupt their persecution complex

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by finghin »

tim333 wrote: post #831
lejalv wrote: post #734

So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

Guidelines: >Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. I guess this gets in as interesting new phenomenon?

So is a televised genocide.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by spacechild1 »

unethical_ban wrote: post #787
hereme888 wrote: post #651

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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They really, truly, have not. We did it because Israel was going to anyway. We didn't do it for regime change, but then we did, oh wait we want to negotiate, but Israel keeps killing the new people in charge. We did it to keep Iran from getting nukes, oh wait, there's no clear plan to get the material out and they've never said they're going to go get it. We now are saying we'll negotiate for the exact same restricti…

Thank you! It's so frustrating to see seemingly educated people on HN who are either in complete denial of reality or shilling for Trump.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by nycdatasci »

roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

We have attacked their “legacy” air defense systems. We cannot really degrade their ability to use their anti-aircraft loitering missiles which don’t rely on radar.

https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/missiles/358-missile-S...

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Post by shin_lao »

roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

46 airplanes were shot down during the second Iraqi war, and there has been over 150 total aviation losses (mechanical failure).

So far we have lost seven airplanes. There's no deep meaning behind one F-15e being shot down (if that's what happened): it's not a stealth aircraft and it's not heavily armored.

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

shin_lao wrote: post #887
roadbuster wrote: post #116

During the entire gulf war (Iraq, 1990-91), only two F-15s were shot down via surface-to-air engagement. At the time, Baghdad was known to have the highest density of SAM protection out of any city in the world. An F-15 being shot down in Iran after weeks of strategic bombing of their anti-air defense systems is not a good sign.

46 airplanes were shot down during the second Iraqi war, and there has been over 150 total aviation losses (mechanical failure). So far we have lost seven airplanes. There's no deep meaning behind one F-15e being shot down (if that's what happened): it's not a stealth aircraft and it's not heavily armored.

I'm not up on news, do we know what shot it down?

Everyone loves missiles, but could it have been guns? Was it flying low?

Remember when some helicopters were being shot down by RPG's and everyone was like 'whooo, no way, that can't be, they aren't accurate enough".

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

bijowo1676 wrote: post #357
ttul wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention the multiple THAAD radars taken offline. Those are $500M assets - and only 8 exist in the world. 24,000 precise transceivers all liquid cooled… not available on Amazon for next day deliver either.

a single AN/FPS-132 radar costs $1.1 bln, not $500m. And Iran stuck 17 of the CENCCOM sites hosting radars of all kinds across Qarar, Bahrain, Iraq, UAE, Saudi, Jordan, Israel, etc). Total cost is so much bigger, it is staggering. The whole CENTCOM is blind basically, as well as Iron Dome which relied on these radars - all blind now, in addition to long-range early nuke detection to protect CONUS is also blind. in ad…

Iran fired at 17. Do we know how many radars are actually offline? I thought it was only 2.

So maybe not blind? but also, hard to verify.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by FpUser »

chakintosh wrote: post #850

The United States will never understand that while they are a technologically advanced army, they will consistently get smoked by countries with a far more rudimentary arsenal. It's been happening in every war since Vietnam. The US could probably steamroll Russia in a week, because both countries will try to deploy the latest tech they have, and the US blows Russia out of the water. But in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, So…

>"The US could probably steamroll Russia in a week"

I did not know Donald posts in here

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