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Re: Facebook is cooked

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This is the first time I've ever heard somebody claim that section 230 exists to deter child predators. That argument is of course nonsense. If the platform is aware of apparent violations including enticement, grooming etc. they are obligated to report this under federal statute, specifically 18 USC 2258A. Now if you think that statute doesn't go far enough then the right thing to do is amend it, or more broadly, es…

Reporting blatant criminal violations is not the same thing as moderating otherwise-protected speech that could be construed as misleading, offensive, or objectionable in some other way.

Indeed. However, there is no universal definition for what offends people, and never will be. People are individuals who form their own opinions and those opinions are diverse.

Ergo if you start to moderate speech which is offensive from one point of view, it will inevitably be inoffensive to others, and you've now established that you're a publisher, not a platform, because you're making opinionated decisions about which content to publish and to whom. At that point the remedy lies in reclassifying said platform as a publisher, and revisiting how we regulate publishers.

They can be publishers. They can censor material they object to. That's fine. But they don't need special exemptions from the rules other publishers follow.

I think it's good to have publishers in the world who are opinionated. There are opinions I don't like and don't want to see very often. Where we get into trouble is when these publishers get classified as platforms by the law, claim to be politically neutral entities, and enjoy the various legal privileges assigned to platforms by Section 230 of the CDA. The purpose of that section was to encourage a nascent tech industry by assigning special privileges to the companies in it. That purpose is now obsolete, those companies are now behaving like publishers, and reform of our laws is necessary.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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How can you tell by just looking at their profile? Bots have for over a decade been able to generate a profile with a real looking picture (usually just scraped from the web) and a realistic sounding bio.

Tangent but reddit allows people to hide their post/comment history which is fine I guess but it's not great for that reason, trying to see if an account is a bot or not. Other than age can't tell anything about that account. I notice more and more accounts use it, particularly the spicy commenters. Which is whatever, I try to stay away from social media now, this is SM here but at least it's more technically oriente…

Profile age and history are not a reliable indicator, either. Many of these bots use hacked accounts. The accounts of real people who stopped using the site and therefore won't notice the abuse of their account and stop it. You sometimes see this happen with your own friends since FB will suggest posts to you that your "friend" interacted with.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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You just need to find a smaller walled garden that can be tended, and not care deeply about having a massive audience and you can still find interesting conversation.

The gardens that need the most tending, and that will have the most impactful rewards for individuals and communities as a result of said tending, exist in meatspace. Stop searching for walled gardens on the internet and focus on whatever is around you wherever you are. Stop using "More social media but different this time!" as the solution to broken social media.

I found it incredibly rewarding to share my hobbies with people from around the world, with the most diverse backgrounds, in the inherently more walled garden of the early web. That was what the web promised over "meatspace" and I think it would be a shame to lose it.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Could this also be related to Facebook killing messenger.com (i.e. they are no longer running a charity so they need all users to be on the main site now to consume the slop)?

That's ironic. I remember when they removed Messenger from facebook.com in order to force people to use the app.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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Also can confirm. From the first moment I started an IG account (at my wife's request), the default algorithm was to give me almost exclusively thirst trap posts with zero geographic or other relevance to me. I had to weed through thirst trap accounts that were brought up before hers - when searching by user name. I took a few minutes a day to search for cat pictures and cooking videos, and sharing cat videos with my…

The sole reason for not using those sites is the whole knowledge that you have to do this crap.

Yea I wonder why people are willing to jump through such hoops, but to each their own I guess

Re: Facebook is cooked

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The sole reason for not using those sites is the whole knowledge that you have to do this crap.

Yea I wonder why people are willing to jump through such hoops, but to each their own I guess

I use it maybe twice a week. My wife maybe every day or two, and will go through things if they make her laugh. Apparently she never got thirst trap hunky dudes non-stop when she first signed up.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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My mother is an international flight attendant in her 60s. I recently caught a glimpse of her Facebook and I was shocked to discover a version of the website that seemed to be the platonic ideal of exactly what all the Facebook PMs intended. Her feed was filled with the photos of her friends and coworkers international trips and holidays, posts in groups for planning activities in her most frequented cities. But I di…

I'm a 30 year old and I have a similar experience. Facebook has almost always been a pleasant experience for me - not just updates from friends but also the new stuff that comes in the feed, which is why I kept getting confused about the reports of fb being a hell hole, until I understood the rabidity & variability of their algorithm.

FB Groups are one of the best corners of the internet imo.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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post #202

My mother is an international flight attendant in her 60s. I recently caught a glimpse of her Facebook and I was shocked to discover a version of the website that seemed to be the platonic ideal of exactly what all the Facebook PMs intended. Her feed was filled with the photos of her friends and coworkers international trips and holidays, posts in groups for planning activities in her most frequented cities. But I di…

I am glad something great about Facebook is being voted on top on HN. Along with another day on post about OpenAI adopting Ads as revenue solution to problem.

It shows the world is healing.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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He has testified to congress that IG/meta does not promote sexual content, which is nuts, because anyone who’s spent 5 mins on the platform knows this absolutely not the case

In my experience it’s mostly sexual adjacent content with just enough plausible deniability that you could say it’s a comedic sketch or something. They’re not funny, and the punchline is usually tits, but it has the cosmetic structure of a joke.

Yeah linktr.ee links instead of OF links.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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I am keeping Facebook just because of a couple of Groups.

My timeline is completely useless, I have an endless stream of suggested post and ads, nothing relevant to me.

Meta is supposed to know me, I use Instagram quite a bit (following F1 teams, some comedians and a bunch of tiktok-style content creators), but somehow this does not translate in targeting on FB, just generic targeting for my population type.

I tried Threads and it was the same. Pretty useless.

Say what you want about X, but at least there I can curate my Following tab and Lists, and have an informative experience.

Except for Instagram due to my F1 passion, Meta is completely useless for me. And once I move those followings on X and Youtube, I guess I'll have no use for Meta software at all. Kind of a shame.

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