lord some of the people on this site need their hard drives searched.
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its this elon cult, its "anything he does has to be defended" so you end up contorting yourself into defending actual csam!
X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#882To people claiming a physical raid is pointless from the point of gathering data : - you are thinking about a company doing good things the right way. You are thinking about a company abiding by the law, storing data on its own server, having good practices, etc. The moment a company starts to do dubious stuff then good practices start to go out the window. People write email with cryptic analogies, people start dele…
At some point in the near future I see a day where our work laptops are nothing more than a full screen streaming video to a different computer that is housed in a country that has no data extradition treaties and is business friendly. Because that country and the businesses that support that are going to get RICH from such a service.
In some places that day is today, and has been for a while.
Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#883Good one. No platform ever should allow CSAM content. And the fact that they didn’t even care and haven’t want to spend money for implementing guardrails or moderation is deeply concerning. This has imho nothing to do with model censorship, but everything with allowing that kind of content on a platform
It seems people have a rather short memory when it comes to twitter. When it was still run by Jack Dorsey, CP was abundant on twitter and there was little effort to tamp down on it. After Musk bought the platform, he and Dorsey had a public argument in which Dorsey denied the scale of the problem or that old twitter was aware of it and had shown indifference. But Musk actually did take tangible steps to clean it up a…
Didn't X unban users like Dom Lucre who posted CSAM because of their political affiliation?
Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#884Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#885Good one. No platform ever should allow CSAM content. And the fact that they didn’t even care and haven’t want to spend money for implementing guardrails or moderation is deeply concerning. This has imho nothing to do with model censorship, but everything with allowing that kind of content on a platform
The lack of guardrails wasn’t a carelessness issue - Grok has many restrictions and Elon regularly manipulates the answers it gives to suit his political preferences - but rather one of several decisions to offer largely unrestricted AI adult content generation as a unique selling point. See also, e.g. the lack of real age verification on Ani’s NSFW capabilities.
Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#886Earlier quoted context omitted.
But how would we bring down our political boogieman Elon Musk if we take that approach? Everything I read from X's competitors in the media tells me to hate X, and hate Elon. If we prosecute people not tools, how are we going to stop X from hurting the commercial interests of our favourite establishment politicians and legacy media?
People defending allowing CSAM content was definitely not on my bingo card for 2026.
All free speech discussions lead here sadly.
Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#887Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did you miss the numerous news reports? Example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/08/ai-chatbo... For obvious reasons, decent people are not about to go out and try to general child sexual abuse material to prove a point to you, if that’s what you’re asking for.
First of all, the Guardian is known to be heavily biased again Musk. They always try hard to make everything about him sound as negative as possible. Second, last time I tried, Grok even refused to create pictures of naked adults. I just tried again and this is still the case: https://x.com/i/grok/share/1cd2a181583f473f811c0d58996232ab The claim that they released a tool with "seemingly no guardrailes" is therefore c…
>First of all, the Guardian is known to be heavily biased again Musk.
Which is good, that is the sane position to take these days.
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#888Earlier quoted context omitted.
X will not provide these informations to the French Justice System. What then? Also insane that you believe the company that built a "commit crime" button bears no responsibility whatsoever in this debacle.
It is illegal in USA too, so the french authorities would absolutely have no problems getting assistance from the USA ones.
Elon Musk spent a lot of money getting his pony elected you think he isn't going to ride it?
Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok
#889Good one. No platform ever should allow CSAM content. And the fact that they didn’t even care and haven’t want to spend money for implementing guardrails or moderation is deeply concerning. This has imho nothing to do with model censorship, but everything with allowing that kind of content on a platform
My natural reaction here is like I think most others; that yes Grok / X bad, shouldn't be able to generate CSAM content / deepfakes. But I am having trouble justifying in an consistent manner why Grok / X should be liable here instead of the user. I've seen a few arguments here that mostly comes down to: 1. It's Grok the LLM generating the content, not the user. 2. The distribution. That this isn't just on the user's…
> But I am having trouble justifying in an consistent manner why Grok / X should be liable here instead of the user.
Because Grok and X aren't even doing the most basic filtering they could do to pretend to filter out CSAM.
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#890Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who has on prem servers at an office location?
I'm guessing you're asking this because you have a picture of a 'server' as a thing in a large rack? Nearly every tech business has a bunch of machines, everything from an old desk top to last year's laptop, which have been reinstalled with Linux or *BSD and are sitting on the network behaving, for all intents and purposes, as a 'server.' (they aren't moving or rebooting or having local sessions running on them, Etc)…
I've worked in several companies and have never seen this. Maybe for a small scale startup or rapidly growing early stage company. I would be pretty shocked to see an old desktop acting as a server nowadays.