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Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by rootusrootus »

jaggederest wrote: post #694
vladgur wrote: post #654

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Sorry for personal questions please answer any OR none as you feel comfortable 1) How is your energy/stamina following the 35% loss 2) Have you done any dexascans/bodyspecs to measure your lean mass percentage before and after your loss 3) Did you take any steps to reduce the muscle loss? 4) with 35% loss, what BMI are you at?

Not the original guy, but down 32%, for a point of comparison: 1) Amazing, like being a decade and a half younger 2) Not before, planning one in the next couple months, but I use skinfold and impedance and they say I've dropped from about 48% to ~20% as I've dropped from 272 to 186, lean mass seems maybe 5kg lower than I started with? Less lean mass loss than I expected. 3) Weight bearing exercise and medium-high pro…

Your stats are very similar. I started at something like 274 (though my overall highest point ever was 284 a couple years ago) and now I'm down to 181. It's a huge difference, as you say it's like being 15-20 years younger. Life changing.

Re: Ozempic is changing the foods Americans buy

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Post by rootusrootus »

vladgur wrote: post #719
jaggederest wrote: post #694

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Not the original guy, but down 32%, for a point of comparison: 1) Amazing, like being a decade and a half younger 2) Not before, planning one in the next couple months, but I use skinfold and impedance and they say I've dropped from about 48% to ~20% as I've dropped from 272 to 186, lean mass seems maybe 5kg lower than I started with? Less lean mass loss than I expected. 3) Weight bearing exercise and medium-high pro…

these are amazing numbers -- how long did this loss take?

To add my own anecdata, it took me a bit over a year (September 2024 to December 2025) to lose the weight. I averaged about 1.5 pounds a week consistently.

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Post by 46493168 »

donkey_brains wrote: post #590
toomuchtodo wrote: post #300

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This is more like someone who is bipolar who is functional when on meds, and goes back to being bipolar when they go off their meds. A nutrition expert cannot fix your brain chemistry, and will power is an illusion. A long term fix is needed for the GLP-1 pathway to properly regulate to the target metabolic profile. Fractyl Health is working on this. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46348199

> will power is an illusion. Lol, what? No one has ever abstained from anything, huh? No one ever quits drugs or alcohol, and no one was ever able to control their weight before this drug? Well, guess that absolves us of all personal responsibility then!

That willpower is an illusion doesn’t absolve anyone of personal responsibility. After all, we still take a car off the road if it has faulty brakes, and cars certainly don’t have a will of their own.

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Post by 46493168 »

deadbabe wrote: post #639

Becoming addicted to food can seriously wreck your life. Nothing makes every aspect of your life harder than being fat. And it just sneaks up on people because no one talks about it, like alcohol, it’s just a thing people assume you will do. When I’m hungry, I eat, and that’s it, I don’t think about food until hours later when I get hungry again. It blows my mind that there’s people that just never stop thinking abou…

>Try to think about food less, it starts in the mind.

It starts in the gut. That’s what we are learning with GLP1s.

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Post by atomicnumber3 »

joshocar wrote: post #792
anon7000 wrote: post #553

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And crucially, many of those bad foods can be pretty addictive. They’re quite literally engineered so that you want to eat a lot of them and buy more. So it’s not surprising many people struggle to change that habit when the food ecosystem is working against you. Junk food both tastes better and is easier to eat than home-cooking a very healthy meal. You’re not exactly set up for success here.

I also think there is an education gap. People grow up eating processed food and don't learn to cook. People often try to cook, but online recipes are not really teaching you anything and are often far more work than they need to be or turn out bad, so people think or learn that cooking a meal takes a long time, is a lot of work, and doesn't taste as good. Cooking becomes the exception rather than the norm. In realit…

I think the main problem with online recipes is that there's a lot of stuff that "cooks" and "people who cook" learn that carries over VERY STRONGLY from dish to dish that is just totally absent from online tutorials. Things like what done (but not dried out) chicken looks like, and how to position chicken in a pan so the thicker parts get more heat, and why your chicken went right from "looks plain" to burned with no maillard reaction.

I think foods/culinary courses should be mandatory in high school. I took one as an elective, expecting it to be a blow-off class, but I ended up being shocked by how much I - honor student and all that - didn't know about browning hamburger, much less actual cooking. I ended up taking the subsequent 3 classes in the "foods" line.

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Post by ceejayoz »

t-3 wrote: post #849
ceejayoz wrote: post #817

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America hides sugar in everything. Plain old white sandwich bread often has loads of added sugar. https://www.businessinsider.com/breads-high-in-sugar-2018-11 Sugar isn’t necessary for bread making. Yeast can break down the starch. That’s what it evolved to do. Flour, water, yeast, salt, done.

> America hides sugar in everything. Plain old white sandwich bread often has loads of added sugar. It's not hidden, it's on the label, and expected. I just don't buy garbage bread. > Sugar isn’t necessary for bread making. Yeast can break down the starch. That’s what it evolved to do. Flour, water, yeast, salt, done. That usually means that malt is added to the flour (most bread flour). You can get breads without ad…

> It's not hidden, it's on the label

Potato, potahtoe. It's not quite "beware of the leopard" territory, but folks here remain quite surprised at how much sugar is added to their bread.

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Post by Bombthecat »

anon7000 wrote: post #553
subpixel wrote: post #551

> It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US The American diet is insane, full stop. However, I've just begun a GLP-1 regimen to address a willpower problem, not a nutritional problem. I'm not quite young anymore and have given lots of other approaches a shot over the years, but have persistently failed to achieve a weight that is not a threat to my health.…

And crucially, many of those bad foods can be pretty addictive. They’re quite literally engineered so that you want to eat a lot of them and buy more. So it’s not surprising many people struggle to change that habit when the food ecosystem is working against you. Junk food both tastes better and is easier to eat than home-cooking a very healthy meal. You’re not exactly set up for success here.

I wonder if we will create a Glp for gaming, they are also addicting.( And created to get you addicted)

What a world we live in...

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Post by banannaise »

bsder wrote: post #673
anon7000 wrote: post #553

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And crucially, many of those bad foods can be pretty addictive. They’re quite literally engineered so that you want to eat a lot of them and buy more. So it’s not surprising many people struggle to change that habit when the food ecosystem is working against you. Junk food both tastes better and is easier to eat than home-cooking a very healthy meal. You’re not exactly set up for success here.

> They’re quite literally engineered so that you want to eat a lot of them and buy more. Even if it's not intentional, I find that the enshittification seems to run along these lines. The things that finally drove it home for me this year were "peppermint bark" and "ranch dip". I used to buy this stuff or use the premade. This year I worked out how to do them properly myself. People raved about both. But I noticed th…

I'm beginning to strongly suspect that many foods are being engineered not to leave you satisfied but to leave you so close to satisfied. I never feel like I just got the perfect bite. My brain wants one more, chasing that perfect bite.

It's a worrisome addiction pattern. I'm still not sure if it indicates something that's been done to the food or a serious problem with my thought patterns.

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Post by margalabargala »

whatshisface wrote: post #868
margalabargala wrote: post #595

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You will also die if you eat precisely the amount of calories you burn every day. There exists something called a "feedback loop", something common in biology. You would probably find it interesting, you should look it up. Basically, it means that if you try to chronically eat, say, 1% more calories than are burned, your body will try to burn more calories to compensate. I'm not sure I grasp the rest of your comment,…

That is the intended conclusion of my post, that body fat is obviously regulated biologically, and suggestions that changes in obesity rates are due to the increased availability of food (implying that it was regulated by some sort of precise cycle of starvation in the past) or individual choices (implying that most people are measuring portions and keeping a running tally) are in conflict with that.

You haven't made that point and I disagree with your conclusion.

Your error is claiming some "precise cycle of starvation" is necessary to explain obesity via increased caloric availability.

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Post by m463 »

subpixel wrote: post #551

> It's insane to me that so many people need these to get off the processed foods killing them in the US The American diet is insane, full stop. However, I've just begun a GLP-1 regimen to address a willpower problem, not a nutritional problem. I'm not quite young anymore and have given lots of other approaches a shot over the years, but have persistently failed to achieve a weight that is not a threat to my health.…

Processed food is easy, tasty (in a shallow way) and more available than the alternatives. I think the real problem is that it's hard to give up "easy" when so many things vie for time and attention in the US.
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