Someone managed to read that article? With the constantly falling snowflakes? Dang, his UI choices seem worse than any he might be criticizing..
It was intentionally done as a parody, I reckon.
It's hard to justify Tahoe icons
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#882Someone managed to read that article? With the constantly falling snowflakes? Dang, his UI choices seem worse than any he might be criticizing..
it's a seasonal theme that can be turned off with one click
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#883For someone critical of UI, he has an awful lot of animated bullshit on that site.
Which is very much on purpose to make fun of exactly that. Try some of the other settings in the top right, e.g. the literal hamburger menu.
Tried that. Does nothing regarding snowflakes that make article next to unreadable.
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#884Most of the people I work with use Macs and never talk about the UI being good or bad. And boy, do we talk about insignificant crap that pisses us off. They just don’t care about menu icon alignment or whether the design follows 1992 guidelines. This thread feels like classic HN bikeshedding. The article itself is nearly 5,000 words about menu icons. Menu icons! Yes, the inconsistencies exist. Yes, they could be bett…
One of the core values distilled by Steve Jobs for all Apple employees is “Obsess over the user experience.” (2011)
It’s been inherent in The Macintosh Way from the beginning.
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#885Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Like, if I go to a restaurant that refuses me sugar for my tea, it better be darn good tea. But if you demand sugar in your tea it doesn't matter how good the tea is, right? You are not going to like that restaurant. > Importantly, that philosophy relies on the result having merit, and working cohesively on its own terms, even if it's not your preference I am too dumb to understand what this means.
I might prefer my tea with sugar, given the choice, but I'll still be satisfied if the tea is very good (this metaphor assumes I don't demand sugar, but merely prefer sugar). I might prefer that Apple products work differently, but if they work well , I'll tolerate that they don't work exactly how I want. In either case, I'm willing to adapt my preferences a bit to an expertly made product. > I thought that was suppo…
> but things were well designed and cohesive.
This is an opinion, though. macOS did do certain things better than Windows, but it also did a lot of things markedly worse. The Mac market share never overtook the Windows market, on-merit it was considered a worse product. You or I might think it was a decent system at some point, but the evidence is really just anecdotal.
I agree with the parent comment, Apple's "thing" was their financial skill and not their manufacturing or internal processes. Once the IIc left the mainstream, people stopped appreciating the craftsmanship that went into making the Apple computer. It was (smartly) coopted by flashy marketing and droves of meaningless press releases, documented as the "reality distortion field" even as far back as the 1980s.
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#886I love this article. It sums up everything I think it's wrong in our line of work.
Things have become very... Amateurish. Think of the way these apps got to where they are-who decided to put all those icons? Probably someone who hasn't a good understanding of usability but maybe - like someone with not enough domain knowledge - looked at other apps and thought that the icons look pretty, while having a small amount of understanding of their purpose.
Why is that happening? I have theories... Hypothesis. Maybe too many managerial types are calling the shots. Maybe we needed more workers than we where able to educate and the average skill dropped (a lot). Maybe companies realized that poor quality doesn't matter, because either customers don't have other choices or the choices that there are are as bad.
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#887Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah, so you can. I tried that but the particles don't disappear immediately so I thought it was just toggling the colour scheme.
Yeah I thought the same thing too. Takes a few moments. A UX suggestion for the author. If a user wants it off, it doesn’t need to be graceful, just quick.
Yeah, I wasted 60 seconds of my life on that stupidity. Makes me much less inclined to read another article by the same author.
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#888It's hard to take this rant seriously when the author chose to clutter his rant with snowflakes. If he's looking for more readers he's lucky I run uMatrix and chose to disable javascript instead of just closing the tab and moving on.
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#889Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uber, Airbnb, Robinhood all took off because they created easy to use beautiful apps (compared to their predecessors). The anti-design bias in this forum is genuinely unhinged. I see some saying the entire destruction of the natural world stems from design lol.
I worked at Uber. The UX designers were pretty obsessed with the iPhone app, making sure it was pixel perfect and the little cars in the city view moved smoothly and every transition was crisp and so on. The vast majority of new users at the time were on the comparatively ugly Android app. Things got pretty bad. More than 95% of all employees (and I'm guessing 99% of designers) were using iPhones at the time. There w…
> The vast majority of new users at the time were on the comparatively ugly Android app.
Probably the vast majority of profitable Uber users were still on iOS, though, like most apps?
> but as one of our designers said "people with taste don't use Android".
Based lol
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#890Earlier quoted context omitted.
> outside of headphones, have a decade-long dismal sales record Outside of headphones and watches
Do they sell many Apple Watches? Maybe it is an euro thing but I only very rarely see people wearing one. I would see 9 garmins for 1 Apple Watch for instance and many more people wearing cheap casios or no watch at all.
I see mostly Apple watches, a few Samsungs, a small smattering of Pixel watches, and then rarely other brands like Garmin and what not around me.