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Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by ulbu »

echelon wrote: post #838
ulbu wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

someone called some indeterminate anonymous corporate group of people who actively participate in enshittification of a product “losers”. you call that specific private individual “rotten”. i’m really twisting my finger at the temple here.

Read this entire thread. There are over two dozen links with Andrew's own words and bullying behavior provided by other commenters. This is only the billionth time he's said something like this. He's apologized for it in the past and said he'd change, but it clearly didn't stick. He's a jerk and a bully like Linus. This is the guy setting culture at Zig, which is undoubtedly why five people responded to me in this th…

and this vision is enough to excuse targetting a person as “rotten”. in all your professed moral acuity.

others are shaming. many could, if not agree, at least understand that. you’re calling “rotten”. wtf man.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by stOneskull »

i was drunk and at a bar.. zig and nim got up to do karaoke together.. elm was there... anyway, they started singing.. 'weeee are the champions, my friends..' it was fun. i got up. 'no time for looooosers, cos we are the champions..' so fun. we had these awesome, delicious cocktails.. they had strawberry in them (with 3 r's) and guido made a toast. he said he couldn't sing but wrote down my name for a song. 'abracadabra'. heh, i want to reach out and grab ya! i nailed it, then did another queen song. eventually we went out back and smoked a joint, but we were so drunk, it knocked us out.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by qhwudbebd »

dpkirchner wrote: post #680
nh2 wrote: post #262

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It is still not a proper fix. It is still busy-looping 100% CPU. Given that Github Actions is quite popular, probably wasting large amount of energy. But probably good at generating billable Actions minutes. One can only hope that not many people use sleeps to handle their CI race conditions, as that itself is also not a proper fix.

Yeah, definitely not a proper fix. Maybe a more serious fix is something like "read -t $N". If you think stdin might not be usable (like maybe it will close prematurely) this option won't work, but maybe you can open an anonymous FD and read from it instead.

    while wait && [[ $SECONDS -lt $1 ]]; do
      read -t $(($1 - SECONDS))
    done
although if you're not too concerned about finishing early if a signal interrupts, probably

    { wait; read -t $1; }
would be fine. You want the wait because otherwise bash won't reap the zombie from the process substitution until after the read times out.

Interestingly, it does reap on a blocked read without -t, so potentially the behaviour on -t would be considered a bug rather than as-designed.

There's also a loadable sleep builtin supplied with bash which calls into the internal fsleep() so should be reliable and without forking.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by sgt »

Ygg2 wrote: post #837
sgt wrote: post #815

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What's wrong with that pull request?

I might have linked the wrong PR. Well here is the full context. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44766771#44809551

Hard to tell from that PR... but just looking at it, it does look a bit chaotic. Maybe if it wasn't clear, he should have discussed it with the core devs before? I cannot imagine it's easy maintaining an open source projects with PR's flowing in without context.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by account42 »

flohofwoe wrote: post #725
budududuroiu wrote: post #687

Unsure if this post is being astroturfed or not, but seeing HackerNews root for Microsoft and boo communities that embrace alternatives feels very, anti-hacker in mentality. Sad state of affairs

There was a short time period between when Balmer left and the beginning of Windows desktop enshittification with ads and the (frankly insufferable) AI hype where Microsoft appeared to be on the right path. A saner Microsoft acquiring Github could have actually turned out to be a good thing, but alas...

> where Microsoft appeared to be on the right path

Only to the hopelessly naive.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by Ekaros »

stocksinsmocks wrote: post #841
sidjxnbx wrote: post #782

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I get it, but I think there’s something deeply anti human about being ok with this (not just in software). It’s similar in sentiment to how you behave when nobody is looking - a culture and society is so much better off if people take pride in their work. Obviously there’s nuance (I’ll take slop food for starving people over a healthy meal for a limited few if we’re forced to choose), but the perverse incentives in s…

I’m pretty sure the USSR, Cuba, and the like never succeeded doing this sort of thing, but maybe if we hit ourselves in the head with the same hammer (and sickle) just one more time it will work?

The capitalist west seems fully happy buying slop and crap as long as it is cheap... Nearly no one demands quality anymore.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by account42 »

veverkap wrote: post #856
hinkley wrote: post #783

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No, I have two decades of negative experiences with them being belligerent assholes to the rest of IT and humanity in general.

All of them? Every single one of their employees?

Every single one of them is ok with working for a company like Microsoft. So, yes.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by account42 »

karel-3d wrote: post #532

Well, GitHub is under AI org now internally at MSFT; on the github front page, they mostly advertise Copilot; I think the ability to host, run and fund code is accidental.

It's not accidental but rather part of their AI training strategy.

Re: Migrating the main Zig repository from GitHub to Codeberg

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Post by h4ck_th3_pl4n3t »

cookiengineer wrote: post #131
dsissitka wrote: post #38

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Maybe the incident: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782 https://dmpwn.info/

> dmpwn Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault, and implying things of ownership through their own created fake accounts and smearing campaigns. Pretty much all allegations on that page are circumstantial evidence, especially the bot ownership parts that sircmpwn even took down while citing those bigots using it to scrape child porn. And then the dude of dmp…

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