and yet people still refuse to understand the utility of bitcoin/lightning protocol in relation to situations like this (or cutting donations to Greenpeace or Wikileaks)
Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
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Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#882Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#883It's crazy to me that people can simultaneously understand that censorship is bad and still think we can allow for exceptions for things like "obscenity/pornography" or "hate speech" Free expression means that objectionable things will be said, even published. There are certainly hairy exceptions, like doxxing, slander, or incitement to violence that can put people in immediate danger, but stuff like this clearly doe…
This isn't censorship. This is VISA/MC saying "you can't pay for porn with our service" or more broadly, "you can't pay for things that we don't want to be associated with" which is their right.
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#884Earlier quoted context omitted.
...sweet summer child visa is hitting DLSite hard https://cs.dlsite.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500002888202-What-p... actually it seems all the major western credit card players have already blocked them. i remember seeing pay with crypto so i guess thats what you need to use in the west
Another framing of this: Mastercard / Visa, and by extension whomever had them to do the crackdown, are now powerless to change DLSite. Googling for news, it seems like the story between DLSite and M/V is a push and pull. Many articles turn up that say they have an agreement, then a disagreement, then an agreement again, then a suspension, then they bring it back again etc. My point here is that their relationship wi…
As for objectification of women: https://automaton-media.com/en/news/credit-card-restrictions...
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#885It's crazy to me that people can simultaneously understand that censorship is bad and still think we can allow for exceptions for things like "obscenity/pornography" or "hate speech" Free expression means that objectionable things will be said, even published. There are certainly hairy exceptions, like doxxing, slander, or incitement to violence that can put people in immediate danger, but stuff like this clearly doe…
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#886Earlier quoted context omitted.
But not because I think people who don’t like nazi content should simply not buy nazi content. It’s because I don’t trust the government to ban any kind of political speech.
Why do you trust the government to ban non-political speech?
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#887It's crazy to me that people can simultaneously understand that censorship is bad and still think we can allow for exceptions for things like "obscenity/pornography" or "hate speech" Free expression means that objectionable things will be said, even published. There are certainly hairy exceptions, like doxxing, slander, or incitement to violence that can put people in immediate danger, but stuff like this clearly doe…
What are the principles governing the exceptions you listed (slander, doxxing, incitement)?
The reason I bring up these examples is that they are what I consider the edge cases of freedom of expression. There are genuinely difficult tradeoffs between values, but allowing stuff that bothers some people to be published is not one of them
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#888Why do you people always presume they know what is best for other people? Don't like porn? Cool, don't buy it or avert your eyes! As if this would stop anybody from getting access to pornographic content.
Some people actually care for the whole, or for the wholesomeness of a specific subset. This includes (on the face) most people who participate in public life. Which is a lot of people! >Don't like porn? Cool, don't buy it or avert your eyes! Why do you then tell others how to live their lives? Is really leaving everyone to their own devices the good idea? >As if this would stop anybody from getting access to pornogr…
Huh? Wait? Are you suggesting that by telling people to leave me alone I am infringing on their freedom to haggle me?!
What a disingenuous and hypocritical way to twist this around! Just wow.
(I did not downvote.)
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#889Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the original days of TheRedPill one of the first things recommended was to drop porn IIRC (also workout and get paid more) The manosphere is probably a very large umbrella of all kinds of views only united by one common trait - being a man. Although you're not wrong that society is hyper sexualised and dating has become increasingly transactional
Recommending one drops porn indicates porn a problem for one.
(Let's ban dancing, I wanna ban dancing with you, all night dancing (it's a reference to a music track))
Re: Steam, Itch.io are pulling ‘porn’ games. Critics say it's a slippery slope
#890Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cryptocurrency is the only way I see this working.
It already works; it's how people in China purchase adult content online, which is illegal there. Usually with USDT (which is also illegal there).