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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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I would love to say another answer is "Firefox" (which is my default browser), but Mozilla have gotten fat of Googles money over the years and got distracted by other things.

I would love if some of these projects that fall backward into loads of money would stay lean, and invest that money in a way that allowed them to become truly independent. So when the money dries up, or the funding becomes dirty, they have the freedom to cut ties and continue their lean operations, self-funded by the interest from their investments.

They instead shovel increasing amount of money into the pockets of ‘leadership’, despite showing signs of nothing but failure at everything they do.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

Being prescriptive about human nature will always be frustrating. You and I can argue about what consumers “should” do but the reality is they will always pick the highest perceived benefit at the lowest perceived cost, even if deeper technical knowledge or improved ideological perspective would change those choices.

And this is exactly why ads should be illegal in a capitalist society.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Oh no, instead consumers pick products because of advertising. What an improvement.

Consumers pick _largely_ based on cost and features, with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second. However, consumers can only pick an option from choices they've heard of. Advertising is about getting into the list (and influencing choice a bit by demonstrating the brand image); the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase.

> with a things like brand, ethics, and environment coming second

I don't think that's true at all - usually brand comes first and ethics are not even considered.

> the product itself still has to a good choice for the customer to make a purchase

Not at all, the consumer only needs to be made to believe that it's a good choice which is very far from being the same thing.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Microsoft invented Electron, when Windows Active Desktop came to be. Mozzilla also invented Electron, when XUL applications were a thing. Both failed, as shipping regular processes with the default browser kept being used.

KDE invented Electron, when they built KHTML as independently embeddable HTML + CSS + JS engine. Mozilla did it with Gecko even earlier, really — but they gave up on it to focus on browser itself. (There were a number of Gecko-based browsers like GNOME default browser Epiphany using it) Apple built WebKit on top of KHTML just as Gecko stopped being updated: I guess they invented it too. Tools like Windmill (web rende…

I don't think KDE ever used KHTML as an app development platform rather than as a plugin for rich text.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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post #365

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Why not only use features that are compatible with all browsers? You don’t need to use every bleeding edge feature to make a website.

I mostly do stick to baseline widely available, but once in awhile something can only be done with a niche API unless perhaps I include a 10 MiB, slow, clunky polyfill. And for a hobby site without paying users, I basically just don't care.

Can you name some examples? Are those APIs required for core functionality of your websites or are they limited to features that could be made optional?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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A monopoly achieved thanks to everyone that forgot about IE lesson, and instead of learning Web standards, rather ships Chrome alongside their application.

Not everyone. Some of us used Firefox all along and didn't just go with the "default" invasive thing.

Okay, but the two of us are not statistically significant.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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post #374

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I would love to say another answer is "Firefox" (which is my default browser), but Mozilla have gotten fat of Googles money over the years and got distracted by other things.

I would love if some of these projects that fall backward into loads of money would stay lean, and invest that money in a way that allowed them to become truly independent. So when the money dries up, or the funding becomes dirty, they have the freedom to cut ties and continue their lean operations, self-funded by the interest from their investments.

Yes but that isn't optimal for the personal profit of the leadership making those decisions.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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post #267

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The average user does not notice any of these things. Except the YouTube thing but that's because I'm not even sure what you're talking about: I leave YouTube windows open in Firefox for weeks.

I can confirm the youtube issue. No idea if it might be some edge case with my distro or hardware. Forcing a GC collection helps but input events to the entire browser still feel laggy until I restart it. It's been going on for years now. It occurs to me that it could be a pathological edge case triggered by ublock and youtube interacting. I'm not going to disable it to find out.

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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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> Mozilla and WebKit find security and privacy problems This is a little disingenuous because Apple often falsely claims security when it’s to hold back tech that could loosen the App Store grasp.

Can you give an example? Generally speaking, when Apple rejects a proposal, Mozilla do too. What’s Mozilla’s motivation for doing this and lying about it?

Web Bluetooth, which would allow hardware to be setup through a website instead you're forced to ship an app to iOS if you're a hardware maker.
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