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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

snarf21 wrote: post #533
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Yeah, the whole platform is about Othering. The greatest trick the rich ever pulled was convincing the middle class that the poor are the cause of all their problems.

And power. Like their power over this young girl trying to go home:

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1l88mhj/lap...

Old dead link: https://www.reddit.com/r/chaoticgood/comments/1l8ax0z/protes...

Remember, less lethal does not mean non-lethal and doesn't mean it can't cause enough damage to impact someone's quality of life forever.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by johnnyanmac »

scoofy wrote: post #820
crmd wrote: post #4

I worry that, rather than de-escalation, one of the White House’s explicit goals here is to stage manage a Kent State-like demonstration of state force against left-wing activists that spreads to other cities. I sincerely hope I’m cynically wrong here.

I think the goal hear is to "both sides" the concept of insurrection to neuter the January 6th criticism of his administration. The protesters here, at least in some cases, are doing their protests explicitly to prevent the government from enforcing laws that the protestors don't like.

Instead it makes Jan 6th look worse as Congress asked for national guard and Trump did nothing. Newsom condemned the use of military and Trump did it anyway.

>explicitly to prevent the government from enforcing laws that the protestors don't like.

100+ policemen died on Jan 6th. What's the body count here?

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Post by johnnyanmac »

laurent_du wrote: post #717
internet_points wrote: post #409

https://bsky.app/profile/iwillnotbesilenced.bsky.social/post... The galaxy is watching.

Funny that this "proud Mexican" has such a long story to tell but zero proof to show. Neither he nor his girlfriend were able to record any of that while sitting comfortably in their car?

We're on Hacker News and complaining that people don't want to record their entire lives on the internet?

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Post by [deleted] »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

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Post by rangestransform »

ty6853 wrote: post #252
gamblor956 wrote: post #249

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The e-verify system has been in place since 1996, and does exactly that: verify legal status of workers. It's required for federal contractors, but only about half of states require its use (it used to be more but some states like CA have actually passed laws banning its use).

It verifies the legal status of the documents submitted. Does little beyond encouraging identity theft of USCs that end up with unexpected tax liabilities.

Making illegal immigrants commit another crime gives an excuse to try them and deport them

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Post by mensetmanusman »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #798
lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

Trump would not have won if Dems had not escalated illegal immigration 2020-24. It was such an unforced error on Biden's part

Probably had more to do with the “weekend at Biden‘s” situation.

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Post by andrewflnr »

andrewflnr wrote: post #665
neither_color wrote: post #550

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The US refuses to admit it has always had an addiction to cheap labor so it entices desperate people to come over with the implicit assumption that if they keep their head down and are otherwise law-abiding it'll "look the other way." Some of them, after years of living on the outskirts of town, commuting 1.5 hours each day to back-breaking minimum wage jobs, and years without seeing their families, are able to scrou…

> Americans' hubristic tendency is to look at a place like Singapore or some other new skyline in the middle east or Asia and declare smugly "borderline slaves built that." FWIW, I bet the part of the population saying that is also the part opposed to the current immigration enforcement, namely liberals.

I can't even tell who I've offended with this comment.

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Post by BriggyDwiggs42 »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #861
BriggyDwiggs42 wrote: post #852

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You were talking about billions of dollars but now 1 million is a relevant amount of taxpayer money destroyed? Am I missing something? A million is money, no doubt, but not relevant on a wider scale to any degree.

What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

The person I was responding to framed the destruction of a million dollars of property as constituting a reversal of a financial success on the order of a billion dollars, which is why I asked for clarification. That seems silly.

>What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

What steps, what assets are being destroyed, why are they being destroyed? These are all relevant questions in answering that. If a small minority of protesters destroy one cop car, I wouldn’t say the response should be to arrest anyone protesting anywhere in the city, if that’s more your question.

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Post by autumnstwilight »

matt-attack wrote: post #602
JCattheATM wrote: post #591

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> If illegal immigration is such a problem, It isn't remotely the problem or even in the same galaxy as needing this type of response. The cause for the actions is racism. The protests are due to calling out racism and removing due process. Anything else is denial or sophistry, that's the simple truth.

So all counties with strong border policies are racist? That’s preposterous. Australia has some of the strictest border policies (drastically more strict than us). Do you believe they’re just racist policies too?

Australian here, I would absolutely characterize the support for and rationale behind our policies as having a significant component of racism (and in the case of our detention centers, a violation of international human rights agreements that we have signed).

You're talking about the same country that had the "White Australia Policy" within living memory. "Are Australian immigration policies motivated by racism?" is unfortunately not a preposterous question at all.

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