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The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by dangerboysteve »

mbilker wrote: post #733
snailscale wrote: post #715

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone curious (as I was) the basic difference is that WSL1 implemented the Linux syscall table directly whereas WSL2 actually runs Linux on top of some virtual drivers (hypervisor).

WSL 2 runs a full Linux kernel under Hyper-V. There are some out-of-tree or staging drivers included in Microsoft's Linux kernel derivative and they publish their kernel sources at https://github.com/microsoft/WSL2-Linux-Kernel .

i routinely upgrade my WSL2 kernel. Now on 6.6.87.1. Personally, I love WSL2.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by xeonmc »

chrsw wrote: post #195
zczc wrote: post #189

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> a version of windows without all the crap LTSC is a version like that

> "Microsoft doesn't make any release from the Long-Term Servicing Channel available for regular consumers. The company only makes it available to volume licensing customers, typically large organizations and enterprises. This means that individual users cannot purchase or download Windows 11 LTSC from Microsoft's website." https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/what...

Just use mas

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by debugnik »

pxc wrote: post #852
debugnik wrote: post #718

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I'd trade half my GPU performance for the NVIDIA drivers not freezing my system on wake-up. The new half-open ones arguably made it worse, it consistently freezes now.

Then why are you using NVIDIA? The AMD open-source driver stack is very mature by now

I had switched back to Windows after years of issues with Linux drivers, I needed a new PC, and I needed CUDA for college and tinkering.

Now, it's been barely a couple of months since I reinstalled Ubuntu, and a couple of weeks since I found out the latest release runs even worse, so this is new to me. I don't plan to use Windows at home ever again, so I could sell my GPU and buy AMD, but so far I'm simply disappointed.

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Post by arzig »

rao-v wrote: post #186
elif wrote: post #7

Every time I praise WSL on hn I pay the karma tax but I will die on this hill. WSL is more powerful than Linux because of how easy it is to run multiple OS on the same computer simultaneously. It's as powerful as Linux with some janky custom local docker wrappers for device support, local storage mapping, and network mapping. Except it's not janky at all. It's an absolute delight to use, out of the box, on a desktop…

I'm with you - after years of messing with dualboot Linux, including (foolishly) running multiday Gentoo builds, WSL + Windows now gives me everything I want from Linux with zero friction. In fact, I'm a little annoyed that I can't get a comparably smooth experience on my MacBook without spinning up a full QEMU VM. I know it's a bit hypocritical since, like most people, I run WSL2 (which is container/VM-based), not W…

Is this close enough? https://github.com/lima-vm/lima

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Post by frollogaston »

zygentoma wrote: post #744
frollogaston wrote: post #434

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Eh, I have a Mac but end up SSHing into some Linux machine pretty often. There are too many differences between the two unless I'm using something like Python or JS. Docker helps too, but that's Linux. Also, it's really annoying that macOS switched to zsh. It's not a drop-in for bash. Yeah you can change it back to bash, but then any Mac-specific help/docs assume zsh because defaults matter. Pretty fundamental thing…

You can also use zsh in Linux ;)

Yeah but it's pretty much assumed that you're using bash there

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Post by gosub100 »

jjcm wrote: post #151

When WSL came out I was absolutely overjoyed - finally an actual linux shell on windows! I use windows for my gaming pc, and I wanted to have a unified gaming/dev box. It felt like the solution. Over time though more and more small issues with it came up. Packages working not quite right, issues with the barriers between the two, etc. It always felt like there was a little bit more friction with the process. With Val…

I was excited about it too, even just having a tmux and using it for grepping and file copying. Then after a year or two on windows, my computer started slowing down. Tale as old as time. I'm not surprised, and some of the issues aren't ms' fault, but nevertheless I see CPU spikes to 100 with several browser tabs open, or the drawing tablet driver goes to 100% cpu usage even though I never even use it. The UX shouldn't degrade like a mechanical system.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by falcojr »

nickserv wrote: post #244
jjcm wrote: post #151

When WSL came out I was absolutely overjoyed - finally an actual linux shell on windows! I use windows for my gaming pc, and I wanted to have a unified gaming/dev box. It felt like the solution. Over time though more and more small issues with it came up. Packages working not quite right, issues with the barriers between the two, etc. It always felt like there was a little bit more friction with the process. With Val…

Just curious, which games gave you problems?

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

Anything "denied" won't work ever unless they change their minds. Anything "broken" is...well...broken.

Re: The Windows Subsystem for Linux is now open source

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Post by SunlitCat »

ghotli wrote: post #166
liendolucas wrote: post #107

I would do it the other way round: use Windows in a virtual machine from Linux. If you are in Windows and have the urge to use Linux, do the proper switch once and for all. You will never look back. I haven't in almost 15 years. Given what Windows has become and already discussed here on HN I would even hesitate to run it in a virtual machine. Edit: more than 15 years.

Counterpoint: things like the Valve Index for VR simply don't behave well in this environment no matter how much I've worked on getting it there. I'm not a novice either, $dayjob has me working on the lowest levels of Linux on a daily basis. I did linux from scratch on a Pentium 2 when I was 12. All that to say yes I happen to agree but edge cases are out there. The blanket statement doesn't apply for all use cases

And even more worse with the Vive Pro 2 by HTC which needs a special Windows tool to use all it capabilities...

I would have switched over to Linux if it wouldn't be because of that one.

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