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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Can barely read this post because scrolling feels so sluggish and weird on a Chrome-based browser on a Pixel 9 Pro. Hope the playful effects are worth it for the author.

it's probably the commenting section at the bottom (which also took forever to load in)

I also found it on the author's homepage, on mobile Firefox - seems to be that I had to scroll mostly past something for my it to highlight and be more readable

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Twitter generated $5bn in revenue in 2021. Since Musk bought it, it's been on a rapid decline. In 2024 it generated $2.5bn in revenue... 50% of its pre-Musk numbers (46% with inflation)! Worse, it continues to trend downward. Most sane tech CEOs would prefer to keep their upward trend and $5+ billion revenue rather than saving $1 billion to lose $2.5 billion and invert their slope.

Remarkably - it’s more profitable now. Also, most layoffs don’t cause huge cuts to advertising spend on their platform because of personal spite or political reasons. The product for all intents and purposes as an advertiser is the exact same.

That's just objectively not true.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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> I imagine it's no different in France. He literally just told you it’s different in France?

He said that with incorrect information about how layoffs in America work.

I think we’re all aware of how layoffs in the US work because there’s so godawfully many of them (that get publicised on HN). It’s very clear to me that 3-6 months of severance is very much not the norm. Being walked out immediately by security very much is.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Layoffs here are always done in conjunction with the unions. People are moved to different jobs, helped with training etc... Only in very critical jobs they'd walk you out immediately but then you still get the pay.

> Weird, as someone from Europe I've never experience anything else. Yeah, no. Also European, and have been marched out without notice, cut off that day with no chance to say goodbye, etc.

It would be interesting to know.

1. Which countries are we talking about? Europe is not homogeneous

2. Which type of business? Are workers unionized?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#885

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vs. i can hire in canada/ukraine/india/pakistan/china for a more skilled person with no such bs restrictions.

This doesn't make sense. If you hire them to work in local offices in those countries, they often have even more employee protections than Europe does. And if you bring them over to US, then it's the same law regardless of where they are originally from.

why would i establish a local office in say paris if laws are so hostile towards startups.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#886

I experienced something similar at Nokia around the time things were starting to go bad (due to competition from Google and Apple). I got caught up in one of the earlier layoff rounds. As I've been able to reconstruct since then what happened was roughly that: - I got a excellent performance review and a small raise. All good, keep on doing what you are doing! I was pretty happy. - Nokia started to prepare for layoff…

> decent amount of start up funding in the form of a grant

This is fascinating? What was it in absolute terms, or relative to your base salary?

Did you have to have a viable startup idea and it was paid to the incorporated company? Or was it just extra cash in your personal bank account?

Did you do that, or did you just get another job?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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> This overgeneralizes IMHO. While the pain of being laid off due to something other than your own actions is fine, there are certainly folks out there who cause a lot of pain to others and aren't worthy of universal sympathy when their own pain comes along. Everyone thinks that when they're angry or upset with someone. Ultimately people are people, and everyone deserves sympathy when bad things happen to them. Note…

Sorry, but I simply don't agree. You're overgeneralizing again with "everyone thinks..." but no, you will trivially find folks who believe that someone (as an example) who murders or facilitates the murder of innocent people does not deserve sympathy when they suffer the consequences of their actions. It is not true that all rational people believe that all people deserve sympathy for all causes of suffering.

> all rational people

As soon as you find me one of these unicorns, I'll concede the point.

Like, ultimately you don't have to show compassion for other humans, but in general, life will be better for all of us if we all do.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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What about European taxes? I', paying 48% + there is 21% VAT on almost everything. Plus taxes for water (taxes, not pay-per-used-m3, and this payment is here too), energy (atop of market energy prices), roads, gasoline, etc.

Slightly tangential question for you- does 48% taxes include healthcare? How about pension? It’s tax week in the US, I think my rate was 22% overall. But another 10% of compensation is health insurance. Another 15% is retirement savings. My municipal water bill last quarter mostly was not for actual water usage (about 40% was for water) rest is system charge and storm water fees. Regarding the VAT thing… we may be ef…

48% doesn't include healthcare (it is another about 170 euro/month per person, and, really, you don't have choice for better or worse conditions, formally there is "market" for this but it is very regulated) or pension. Some industries (but not software/IT one) have industry-wide pension funds, but it is additional payments and if you are in industry without this fund you can go to one of the "open" pension funds and put your money in them.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#889

> Googler... Whole things reads like someone leaving a cult. It's ok to be sad about leaving a job but your identity shouldn't be so tied up in it that you're crying in a blog post online. We all lose jobs and we all get on with it. Obviously they're talented and will land fine somewhere. I'm not trying to be mean but it's bad that a person can get upset to this point around a job. The corp isn't caring.

>your identity shouldn't be so tied up in it that you're crying in a blog post online

If a personal blog isn't the right place to express distress when being fired, what is a personal blog even for?

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

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post #883

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said that with incorrect information about how layoffs in America work.

I think we’re all aware of how layoffs in the US work because there’s so godawfully many of them (that get publicised on HN). It’s very clear to me that 3-6 months of severance is very much not the norm. Being walked out immediately by security very much is.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Usually both happen. You usually get 3+ months of severance on your "don't sue us or badmouth us" paperwork and then security escorts you out.
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