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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by bigfatkitten »

tim333 wrote: post #684
anonshadow wrote: post #570

This is the money shot : "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts. The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these…

I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though. Why be so nasty? If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down? I'm curious as a non American why no one stops this. I mean presumably both political parties have not bothered. Do people in the US think it's ok? I think if that stuff hap…

> If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down?

On the contrary. In the US in particular, there is a large and outspoken segment of the voting base that love to see this sort of thing.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by refurb »

defrost wrote: post #865
refurb wrote: post #864

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USCBP can't deport someone to a country they aren't a citizen of. Mexico doesn't want that problem dumped on them.

Currently the USofA is deporting Venezuelans to El Salvador with no trial or other due process. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz032xjyyzyo

They are in custody of the USCBP for being in the country illegally and are awaiting final disposition.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] »

enoch_r wrote: post #873
ok_dad wrote: post #868

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I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

You're proving my point here - the original comment claimed that the left was merely defending the pre-existing, settled rights that trans people have "always" had against the right's aggression, I'm saying that the left has been actively pushing for change and new rights. I think the left sees trans rights as a continuation of the civil rights movement. This is an empirical question, entirely separate from the quest…

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by [deleted] »

bobalob wrote: post #876
ok_dad wrote: post #868

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I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

Could you explain the racial analogy in more detail please? It's not obvious how restricting males from using female-only spaces is similar in concept or principle to racial segregation.

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Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by ok_dad »

enoch_r wrote: post #873
ok_dad wrote: post #868

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally wonder if people were arguing and complaining that America was moving left or failing back when racial integration was the big fight. I’m sure there were people arguing that letting non-whites drink from the same water fountains was dangerous for white women. Think about that a bit while you lament transgender people.

You're proving my point here - the original comment claimed that the left was merely defending the pre-existing, settled rights that trans people have "always" had against the right's aggression, I'm saying that the left has been actively pushing for change and new rights. I think the left sees trans rights as a continuation of the civil rights movement. This is an empirical question, entirely separate from the quest…

No, I'm saying you're derailing the conversation with your "empricism", congratulations. That's what you people do around here. If there are simply a few examples of the "danger" you people claim, then why is it such a problem? Answer is that there is no problem, it's a made up issue that is being used to divide us politically, like abortion or gay rights or weed. It doesn't matter if "the democrats are moving left", you're either for the rights of people to exist as they wish, or you are for limitations on how people can express themselves in this way. I'm finished with this line of conversation, you have wasted enough of my time.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by DangitBobby »

blindriver wrote: post #471
freehorse wrote: post #419

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It is you that actually has to answer on which rules were broken and which countries do the same . Tbf asking questions to be answered by non-examples is disingenuous. If your argument (2) is that others do it, then you should provide concrete examples similar to the original article. If your argument (1) is that they did not follow some rules, you should either provide specific rules that the author did not follow,…

She tried to enter the country illegally and illegally apply for a work visa. 1) She co-founded a hemp drink company in California as a Canadian. "Jasmine Mooney, an actor who is also co-founder of the beverage brand Holy! Water, was detained on 3 March in San Diego, California." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/18/canadian-act... 2) She applied for a TN visa that was sponsored by her own company, which i…

Was she accused of these things by ICE? Was she told which laws she allegedly broke? Was she being detained ahead of a trial? I don't understand how even allegedly illegal activity results in her indefinite detention without anyone telling her anything.

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Post by closewith »

tim333 wrote: post #684
anonshadow wrote: post #570

This is the money shot : "Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts. The more detainees, the more money they make. It stands to reason that these…

I don't get the " tiny, freezing cement cell with bright fluorescent lights" and a foil blanket thing though. Why be so nasty? If you are making a business improperly detaining people it would only be likely to cause outrage and get it shut down? I'm curious as a non American why no one stops this. I mean presumably both political parties have not bothered. Do people in the US think it's ok? I think if that stuff hap…

> I think if that stuff happened in the UK there would be a lot of protests.

A lot worse happened in UK prisons in Northern Ireland and people in Great Britain widely cheered it on. Target the right minorities and there'd be no shortage of supporters in Westminster.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by foogazi »

transcriptase wrote: post #88
BizarreByte wrote: post #28

The specifics of this case are largely irrelevant to me, the fact is I am scared to cross the border into the US at this point. For the foreseeable future I will not be travelling to the US for any reason. Canada is safe and there is nothing in the US worth risking my freedom for. I will remain here and I will continue to avoid travel to America as well as spending money on American goods/services.

The specifics are seemingly irrelevant to everyone. She had her work visa revoked at the Canadian border because her company in California was allegedly making THC beverages in violation of federal law. She was told to visit a consulate to straighten it out. Instead she flew to Mexico and tried to enter there with new and obviously fake job offer. She was treated like anyone else would, but it’s international news be…

> She was treated like anyone else would

How is it OK to treat everyone like that ?

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Post by myko »

kcplate wrote: post #460
myko wrote: post #436

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It's kind of humorous reading this and thinking about trump during the same campaign. He looks utterly confused and has no idea what he is talking about all the time, he was a doddering fool during his last administration, and this one he's not at the wheel at all. So it's just funny to think that people looked at the mental capabilities of Harris and trump and decided... yep trump is the guy!!

I didn’t vote for him either. I don’t necessarily see dementia there, but there are quite a few personality traits that I find absolutely abhorrent.

Oh yeah I wasn't accusing you of supporting him, just thought it was interesting how people treat him as if he hasn't lost his marbles. It's night and day to how he spoke ~15 years ago. His brain is mush.

Re: I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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Post by consteval »

robertlagrant wrote: post #799
consteval wrote: post #577

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> The question we all need to ask is - how many people are personally victimized by transgender Americans? Gay Americans? Green card holders? Once you start asking those questions, the current conservative zeitgeist becomes untenable, and the platform quickly crumbles. I agree that that statement is technically correct, but I have observed various forms of it in American media, and here's my issue with it: the Conser…

This is simply not true. If you turn on Fox News or even listen to the current administration talk, they are talking about transgender people.

Hell, Ted Cruz ran an ad depicting transgender children as big burly men who want to hurt YOUR daughters on the soccer field. He's a senator. He's got bigger fish to fry than that.

Even if you truly believe conservatives aren't making a boogeyman out of nothing, which is very hard to believe, but even if you do - if you look at the legislation being proposed it doesn't target the narrow cases you think it does. It harms all trans people. A lot of it targets gender-affirming care for adults.

And then immigration. How many people have illegally been detained now? Are we in the few hundreds? Where's their due process? I won't mince words. If you think the Trump administration is only targeting "illegal" immigrants, you are stupid.

Not that we didn't see any of this coming. For months leading up to this administration, the left warned about Project 2025 and it's radical ideals. We reminded you that this has nothing to do with children. With illegal immigrants. This has to do with every American. But you, evidently, continue to fall for obvious lies. After a certain point, we must deduce that you have subscribed to some religion, and it is out of our hands.

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