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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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I don't think that 100B number is correct. It would be if Google had to give back the business (or it imploded) after 10 years

That $100B is a based on a ballpark estimate of how much a passive investor would expect to earn by putting $32B of their money into a high-yield stock fund (yielding 15% per year, which is a conservative annual growth rate for a cloud provider) and sitting on it for 10 years. If Google can't do at least as well as that, the investor would be better off with the stock fund.

Yes but I'm saying that they will still own Wiz at the 10 year mark, so you can discount their valuation at the time from the 100B.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Those numbers are pathetic compared to the suffering caused by the israeli occupation of palestinians. The palestinian armed groups had a lot more weaponry than they brought along on October 7th, in an operation that was explicitly aimed at military personnel and bases, as detailed in the israeli report published a while back. They concluded for example that the palestinians in the unorganised second wave arrived at…

> Those numbers are pathetic compared to the suffering caused by the israeli occupation of palestinians The Gaza numbers are pathetic compared to the Vietnam war and the Vietnam war was nothing compared to the Holocaust. Let's keep deteriorating this debate I'm loving it.

I don't think you should.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Yeah, read a lot of H1B discussions here. Racism is seething.

Yes because people are losing their jobs or not getting the chance. YES, the selection pool being only my country favours ME. Are we CLEAR? Are we supposed to sit and take it?

> Are we CLEAR?

Why are you shouting?

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Maybe if you explained that supposed complexity and didn't stop at an ad hominem argument your first parapgraph might have had some weight, but you didn't. There is very little complexity to the "conflict". A political movement supported by antisemites wanting to get rid of jews at home established a state through displacement and eradication of the indigenous population. This state has continued applying these kinds…

You literally went after someone just because they’re Israeli-could be my friend, coworker, or even me. If you single someone out like that, don’t be shocked when you get called out in return. And honestly, I’m not convinced my previous comment even counts as a real ad hominem-though sure, if it makes you feel better, let’s call it that. But let's get one thing straight: calling the Arabs in Israel/Palestine "indigen…

No, I did not. I "went after someone" because they have willingly contributed to atrocities. I don't think you should be doing business with people related to the al-Jolani or UAE regimes either, and if you do business in those territories it should be in support of resistance movements.

If you are israeli and support the state of Israel, well, yeah, then I think people ought to try and make you uncomfortable until you stop.

The palestinian indigeneity is much broader than the arabic language. There is no "Jewish people's claim", there is a zionist claim, i.e. a claim from a movement that mostly consists of christians, unless enough hindus have come to support it to outnumber them. Most of the foreign funding would still be from christians, I think. Either way, the territorial claims have little basis in either history or religion, it's an entirely modern idea that fused british and zionist colonial ambitions in the region with antisemitism, and later was inherited by the US.

You have a very colonial outlook, by the way. You look at this and think of people as "Arab", as if the people displaced by Israel that got their homes and homelands eradicated would be the same as people in Morocco or Sudan. It's fine to just drive them away and murder them, because something something Judea, and the empire needs a military presence to offset challenges to its oil extraction.

The zionists brought terrorism to the region and invented parts of modern terrorist tactics, things like market bombings. Palestinians have compromised, while the state of Israel has refused to and systematically murders its negotiating partners and attacks other neighbouring countries. The palestinians got nothing for their compromises, while Hamas has had some success with armed resistance, which, under occupation, is a right.

Israel mainly attacks palestinian civilians, while palestinian militants have for decades tried to avoid civilian harm. This is why the suicide bombings stopped, for example. Israel is also not a democracy, and is illegitimate on this fact alone.

I think the US is severely chauvinist as well. That "female prime minister" infamously said that she could never forgive the palestinians for resisting displacement and murder, and thus "force" the zionists to murder palestinian children.

The zionist occupations are atrocious and criminal. This isn't a grey zone, it's clear from international law and basic morality. You don't get to eradicate people and societies in this way. It was wrong when the russians did it to the circassians, it's wrong when christians and jews do it to the palestinians and lebanese. There are no excuses, and can be no excuses.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

#886

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You literally went after someone just because they’re Israeli-could be my friend, coworker, or even me. If you single someone out like that, don’t be shocked when you get called out in return. And honestly, I’m not convinced my previous comment even counts as a real ad hominem-though sure, if it makes you feel better, let’s call it that. But let's get one thing straight: calling the Arabs in Israel/Palestine "indigen…

> The International Labour Organization's (ILO) Indigenous and Tribal Peoples Convention, 1989 (ILO Convention No. 169), states that the convention covers: >> peoples in independent countries who are regarded as indigenous on account of their descent from the populations which inhabited the country, or a geographical region to which the country belongs, at the time of conquest or colonisation or the establishment of…

To add to this, the zionist movement also attacks jewish ethnicities and seeks to replace them with a new, modern identity. This is why they have a problem with yiddish and seek to replace it with an invented modern language, sometimes engage in Holocaust revisionism, are in constant tension with the haredim, used terrorism and similar tactics to try and force jews to move to Israel, and so on.

It follows from this view that the historical jews were weak, impure due to assimilation, 'freyers', which is why they were persecuted and subjected to genocide, and the new, zionist, jew is strong, muscular and will always make someone else the 'freyer'. And, as many zionists see it, will also be on the frontlines in the final struggle of the endtimes, where they will absorb the brunt of the violence and then convert to protestant christianity if they survive.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Customer feedback (2024), https://old.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/1c1s9r2/wiz_... > Wiz combines a graph search for asset management with agentless vuln and malware scanning that clones EBS volumes and scans them on their infrastructure. That's a great combo for vuln management, but has some downsides like delays between scans and cloud costs. They have a sensor with solid detection rules, and are okay at a b…

Isn't this a roundabout kickback scheme?

Discussed last year in the linked HN subthread.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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post #59

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>and security (post the Mandiant acquisition) As a Googler who works in GCP security, security has been a key differentiator for GCP long before the Mandiant acquisition. Google invented BeyondCorp (a primary driver of Zero Trust). Google helped create security keys (U2F, FIDO, Webauthn), and was I think the first major company to adopt them, both for employees, and for consumers. Google was one of the first major co…

> Look at the number of times other tech companies get hacked compared to Google. Your whole post is confusing Security of the Cloud with Security in the Cloud. And conflating GCP with Google but those are just examples of why GCP has such a small market percentage.

The security of GCP rests on the security of Google. If Google gets hacked, GCP customers are not secure.

Additionally:

Google offers BeyondCorp products as GCP products. A big example is IAP. Do AWS and Azure offer something like IAP? If so, I think they were created in response to IAP.

Another Google/GCP security product related to zero trust is Chrome Enterprise Premium: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/int... .

Another innovative GCP security product is VPC Service Controls. Do AWS and Azure offer something like that? If so, I think they were created in response to VPC Service Controls.

Security keys: I mentioned in my previous comment how they're used by consumers (that includes GCP customers). GCP is making MFA mandatory this year: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/man...

Bug bounties protect GCP customers by making sure GCP products don't have vulnerabilities.

Project Zero protects GCP customers by finding vulnerabilities in products that GCP customers use (although it also finds vulnerabilities in products that AWS and Azure customers use).

When Microsoft got hacked by China in 2023, China stole Microsoft's signing key, and used it to mint tokens to impersonate Azure AD users of Microsoft customers. That's relevant to security in the Cloud.

GCP products are also recognized for security:

https://cloud.google.com/resources/forrester-unstructured-da...

https://www.varonis.com/blog/forrester-wave-data-security-pl...

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/infrastructure-modern...

https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/goo...

https://www.teradata.com/press-releases/2020/forrester-2020-...

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

#889
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>and security (post the Mandiant acquisition) As a Googler who works in GCP security, security has been a key differentiator for GCP long before the Mandiant acquisition. Google invented BeyondCorp (a primary driver of Zero Trust). Google helped create security keys (U2F, FIDO, Webauthn), and was I think the first major company to adopt them, both for employees, and for consumers. Google was one of the first major co…

These are all Google things. How do I benefit from them as a GCP customer?

See my reply here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43399981

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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What could possibly be worth 36 billion? That we don't already know?

This is google. They've got everything. I use google password manager, wallet, biometrics to log into my google smartphone and google authenticator for my 2FA. I use google voice and maps, photos, youtube, search, docs, gmail and gemini for AI. Imagine if you found an authentication backdoor - a way to impersonate any account and you could start sucking down data. You do it for 5 billion people and charged google $6.…

Do you think you could get away with doing that?
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