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U.S. pauses all military aid to Ukraine

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Post by charlysl »

codedokode wrote: post #702
audunw wrote: post #665

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Of course they can defeat Russia, if they’re tenacious enough. Just look at Afghanistan (against both Russia and USA). If the costs ends up being too high, eventually the attacker loses the will to continue the fight. Russia is running out of equipment. What they have left is in an increasingly bad state. Ukraine’s recent strategy of targeting refineries is working fairly well. Ukraine now has domestic laser weapons…

Afghanistan is an awful example because there was a large number of civilians dead as a result (many times more that foreign soldiers), country having to live through several devastating wars, poverty, and a terrorist group became the government in the end. This was much worse thing than what is happening in Ukraine.

The Taliban are not a terrorist group, awful as they are

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Post by exe34 »

georgeplusplus wrote: post #732
exe34 wrote: post #462

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I think they would give peace a chance if there was a chance Russia might withdraw, or if what's left of Ukraine could join NATO.

I dont want to have ww3 for ukraine joining nato. Im glad tbe adults are in charge.

it's interesting that you use the word "adult" here. my father was also a violent narcissist, and appearance was the most important thing. he too would invent causes to be offended about when reason wasn't sufficient to crush somebody. I'm very familiar with the kind of adult you're referring to.

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Post by skinnymuch »

dlahoda wrote: post #777
skinnymuch wrote: post #675

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It started because of the western coup in Ukraine. Reminds me of people who say Oct 7 started the “war” in Palestine.

what do you mean by western coup? so you would preffer russian troops killing political opponents and protesters in ua, like they did since 1992 in belarus till these day to avoid """coup"""? or you prefer russian troops did 10x more massacre and hide it, instead they did 10x less in bucha and did not have time to hide? btw just talk with pl and cz old people how their western coup was going. seems like people prefer…

The west does things even worse than that to non white people and the west does near nothing (usually perpetrating this behavior) to avoid coups the way you’re saying.

There was a coup orchestrated by the west in Ukraine in 2014. Followed by an escalation of a complicated situation that is not clear cut like people in the west like to make things seem. After the coup, there was suppression of Russian things by the western backed and planted regime.

Of course things may have eventually escalated if Ukraine and the west are doing that and the Russian separatists in the east are provoking in DPR and LDR.

I am sympathetic to Kissinger, Dugin, and Mearsheimer views on geopolitics if you must know.

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Post by efilife »

swat535 wrote: post #858

History has a way of repeating itself. Sometimes I wonder if I am the only one who feels like world peace has been unraveling for decades, slowly reaching a breaking point? I don't know what happens when the U.S. eventually pulls out of NATO, a scenario that seems more possible than ever based on the actions of the current Administration. Will Europe be able to stand its ground against Russia and China? We now have w…

> I honestly, worry about the world we are creating for our children

It's not we, the politicians are creating this unsafe, cruel world. We didn't choose war.

Also, the world has always been like this. Peace was always only momentary. The best scenario would be to just stop procreating so our children don't have to live in this shit but it's obviously not going to happen

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Post by skinnymuch »

MiscCompFacts wrote: post #697
skinnymuch wrote: post #671

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Presumably innocent Russian men are being kidnapped and forced to fight for a dictator just as much. So let’s stop blaming the victim when Russia is clearly the aggressor and started this whole ordeal.

As the other person responded. You are not correct.

The west started this. They couped in Ukraine in 2014. They accelerated tensions with the DPR and LDR. This reminds me of people who say Oct 7 is when things began in Palestine.

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Post by skinnymuch »

SpaceL10n wrote: post #795
skinnymuch wrote: post #671

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Most countries have some form of selective service. We're all barbarians...

It is barbarism within the context of elites in Ukraine sitting around taking money of cowards in Europe and the Five Eyes funneling money and weapons in. A war that could not be won. It was wrong to not cease fire in 202. A proxy war is not the same as most situations
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